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Title: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: Czakky on November 02, 2019, 07:16:27 AM
My R5 project has RD350 crank cases and transmission, with R5 stator/ignition timing.

My question is how do I tell the difference between an RD and R5 cranks?
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: m in sc on November 02, 2019, 08:58:12 AM
i think the r5 crank is slightly heavier on the flywheels (that's hearsay, i never measured), but they are interchangeable.
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: Czakky on November 02, 2019, 10:35:27 AM
So there is no telltale sign? Bummer.
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: Brad-Man on November 02, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
No difference between R5 and Rd cranks 250 or 350.
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: SUPERTUNE on November 02, 2019, 11:49:48 AM
Quote from: m in sc on November 02, 2019, 08:58:12 AM
i think the r5 crank is slightly heavier on the flywheels (that's hearsay, i never measured), but they are interchangeable.

Correct.
Thicker and heavier.
I have a special press plate I made to do R5 cranks.
C
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: SUPERTUNE on November 02, 2019, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: Brad-Man on November 02, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
No difference between R5 and Rd cranks 250 or 350.
Incorrect.
See above...
I'll find one and post measurements of the flywheel thicknesses.
Chuck
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: Czakky on November 02, 2019, 12:29:22 PM
I'm trying to get some parts together to ship to you Chuck.

Do you have the thickness of either flywheel?

I'm trying to decide if I should send you my crank.
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: Czakky on November 02, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Here's what was inside my bike.
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: SUPERTUNE on November 03, 2019, 12:18:21 AM
After texting back and forth we have detremend Bill has a RD350 bottom end and not a purebred R5 engine.
So he has a RD crank not a R5 crank.
I've tried to find a R5 crank at my shop, but can't fine one to measure.
Chuck
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: Yamaha 179 on November 03, 2019, 05:57:13 AM
I think I have a R5 crank in my crankshaft spares box.  I'll check later today and if so, will post the info.
Lyn Garland
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: teazer on November 03, 2019, 08:34:50 AM
From a practical point of view are there any real differences or reasons to prefer one rather than the other?

I couldn't see any differences between the R5C parts book and RD350B list.  Maybe earlier R5s or later RDs had different parts.
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: SNice on November 03, 2019, 08:57:09 PM
You guys (Supertune & Yamaha 179)helped me through this way back when on the old site!  I had the same question!

The R5 cranks are heavier with thicker webs. Critical dimensions are the same - thus they are interchangeable.

The "connecting rod gap" - don't know the formal term- is smaller on the r5 crank (thicker webs) by about 1mm.

The r5 webs are about .5mm thicker. I have 1 of each. The r5 measures 21.4mm (roughly) and the rd is around 21.05 (roughly)

As has been concluded - it appears you have an RD crank.

I guess it comes down to what is the benefit of spinning a lighter crank?

Unfortunately the cranks exceed the limit of my small scale so I can't get a weight difference.
Pics on my phone are too large to upload....
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: bhh1989 on November 26, 2019, 07:36:37 AM
Very interested in this - if the heavier R5/DS7 crank makes a difference in performance. I just bought my next project bike (a DS7) and the crank is likely bad from sitting without plugs in the top end. If I go replacing it...
Title: Re: R5 vs RD350 Crank
Post by: Czakky on November 26, 2019, 07:58:01 AM
Chuck (SUPERTUNE) has my core crank. Hit him up.