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Title: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 25, 2019, 06:19:36 PM
Dumb question but I have to ask anyway. What do you folks use to cut the reed stuffers off the RZ/Banshee intake manifolds, razor knife or dremel? I got careless on the first one I tried and cut straight through the rectangular sealing lip.  :bang:
I know I have to be more careful but maybe someone has a hack to make it easier.
Mike D
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: m in sc on February 25, 2019, 06:23:24 PM
i use an exacto. however, the upp ones dont have the stuffer.  :twocents:
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 25, 2019, 06:31:01 PM
Hi Mark
I assume patience is the key here. Do you just cut them flush or taper them to the inlet?
BTW how well do the UPP manifolds fit?
Mike D
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: m in sc on February 25, 2019, 06:35:26 PM
the upps bolt right on. you need a gasket between them and the cage though.

on the banshee style, i usually cut, them smooth with a sanding drum on a dremel.
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 25, 2019, 06:38:55 PM
1 more question
I already have the Banshee cross over tube so will it fit the UPP manifolds?
Mike D
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: m in sc on February 25, 2019, 06:41:51 PM
yup :clap:
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 25, 2019, 06:57:00 PM
cool thanks
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: Jspooner on February 25, 2019, 07:36:39 PM
I just cut them off with a utility knife leaving a sliver stick up and then hold it up to a belt sander and sand it smooth or.............I take some sticky back sand paper (120 grit) and stick it to something flat like a table top or even a countertop and then slide the intake back and forth on the sand paper until it's smooth. And as mark says, use a gasket between the manifold and reed block as well.
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 25, 2019, 08:04:00 PM
Wouldn't that sand the sealing lip off also?
Mike D
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: Jspooner on February 25, 2019, 08:41:59 PM
That's why you use a gasket.
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 25, 2019, 09:47:14 PM
That's good news, looks like I can salvage the one I cut into the sealing lip. Do you go down to the metal or just until the rubber is smooth and flat?
Mike D
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: Jspooner on February 25, 2019, 09:49:34 PM
I take them right down to the metal.
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 26, 2019, 05:55:31 AM
thanks for the info Jspooner
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: Jspooner on February 26, 2019, 09:18:41 AM
Here's a picture of one of mine from my TZ motor.
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 26, 2019, 08:45:57 PM
thanks, much clearer now
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: Dvsrd on February 27, 2019, 04:26:14 AM
This thread makes me a bit curious. The "stuffers" were used to improve flow somewhat. And using RZ manifolds is mainly because of the balance tube fittings, right?
Why not use something like this instead?  https://www.economycycle.com/shop/yamaha-rd250350400r5ds6ds7-parts/manifold-kit-with-cross-over/

Any experience with those, especially with regards to ethanol blended gas?
I do, however, believe the RZ style rubber bung connection for the balance tube is a better design than a molded in stub, with regards to potential leaks.
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: Jspooner on February 27, 2019, 05:54:00 AM
I don't know why the OP was cutting them of but I cut them off because I use VForce reeds and they have their own stuffers.
Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: teazer on February 27, 2019, 06:31:30 PM
Exactly.  And if he's using stock reed cages, there is no benefit in removing the ears (stuffers).  Without them there is a huge step change in area from the small reeds to the gaping hole in the reed cage.  Airflow doesn't like that sort of change in area.

Title: Re: RZ350/Banshee inlets
Post by: 75-RD350-man on February 27, 2019, 09:05:34 PM
I did it in my ignorance, I was trying to help the mid range stumble on my RD400 and read that a cross over pipe would help so I bought a set of RZ manifolds to modify. If this is the wrong direction what are other members using to mount their cross overs or boost bottles?
Mike D