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Title: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: Alain2 on June 23, 2020, 10:03:26 AM
Is it a myth than when you open a good working engine you should find a puddle of 2 stroke oil in the crankcase.

I just opened a rd400 and the components are well coated with thick 2 stroke oil, but there is no puddle in the bottom.

The bike has autolube and average 32:1 to 40:1 Oil ratio depending on how fast I ride.
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: m in sc on June 23, 2020, 10:14:25 AM
your ratio should be a lot lower than that on the pump.

ive opened them as you state and not nec seen a puddle but working ok otherwise.
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: Alain2 on June 23, 2020, 11:11:36 AM
I suspect the higher Oil ratio because it is a "pink dot" oil pump?

What do you average with the regular pump?
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: m in sc on June 23, 2020, 11:20:30 AM
I cant quote off the top of my head, but i know it was lower than that. chuck might know, there was discussion about this a long time ago. -maybe- it was closer to an average of 40:1 overall but my recollection is it was quite a bit lower than that.
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: rodneya on June 23, 2020, 08:24:34 PM
My YZ250 always had a fair sized puddle whenever I opened her up. Ran 40:1
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: Jspooner on June 25, 2020, 10:16:12 AM
I've seen a puddle more often than not when I've taken them apart.
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: Dvsrd on June 25, 2020, 11:38:05 AM
Wouldn't it mostly depend on how the engine was ran just before it was shut off, last time it was used before disassembly? If it was running pretty much wfo, then shut down quickly, I would not expect much oil in the crankcase.
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: m in sc on June 25, 2020, 01:06:39 PM
yes. ^ also how long it sat and if the pump checks (if on the pump) are seeping a bit.  :twocents:
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: Dvsrd on June 26, 2020, 04:37:24 AM
As a totally irrelevant side note, my mid-50s Villiers 12D 125cc engine has a crankcase drain plug. Presumably for draining excess oil, or excess fuel if flooded.
Title: Re: 2 stroke oil puddle in crankcase
Post by: m in sc on June 26, 2020, 07:04:25 AM
my t500 does as well.