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Title: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 11, 2021, 05:15:24 PM
What's your favorite lube for the points cam on ignitions without the felt pads for oil?
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: m in sc on May 11, 2021, 05:18:42 PM
nothing will last without it but id use some marine grease. a tiny amount.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 11, 2021, 09:31:29 PM
What about brake pad/caliper pin grease? Hi-temp, but sticky enough? I'm gonna try it unless I can find my can of white lithium grease.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: RDFL on May 11, 2021, 11:09:19 PM
Auto part stores have distributor cam lube in small tubes.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 12, 2021, 09:28:29 AM
Do you like the Lucas Red and Sticky?
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: pidjones on May 12, 2021, 12:27:47 PM
FSM specifies "light weight machine oil" for RD400c. To me, that indicates sewing machine oil or 3in1 oil. I have Singer sewing machine oil that I use.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: m in sc on May 12, 2021, 01:11:54 PM
If you have the oiling felt the thin oil is fine.

:twocents:
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 12, 2021, 09:09:48 PM
Did the factory get rid of the felt pads on the 250?  I didn't see any evidence of there ever having been any on the ignition plate I'm using.  No holes or anything.  Just a bunch of red grease on the cam. 
My usual parts store says they'll have to order distributor grease.  Went to the next town over and they didn't have any either.  boo hoo hoo.  I guess all the locals jus' git it off the innerwebs.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: 1979DaytonaSpecial on May 12, 2021, 09:19:09 PM
Bosch points grease. What I've used on VW points for years.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: RDFL on May 12, 2021, 11:01:46 PM
https://www.autozone.com/greases-and-gear-oil/points-distributor-lube/duralast-distributor-cam-lubricant-0-75oz/112359_0_0 ---------   https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/standard-ignition/chemicals---fluids/maintenance-chemicals/grease---lube/dielectric-grease/b1c6974811dc/standard-ignition-silicone-grease/std0/sl2 ----------  Any shop should have in stock.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: SoCal250 on May 13, 2021, 01:44:28 AM
Quote from: Greaser Greg on May 12, 2021, 09:09:48 PM
Did the factory get rid of the felt pads on the 250?  I didn't see any evidence of there ever having been any on the ignition plate I'm using.  No holes or anything.  Just a bunch of red grease on the cam. 

Which 250? RD250? If yours are missing someone removed them, probably when they replaced points. They were stock on all RD models and predecessor models.

Yamaha 131-81231-20-00 LUBRICATOR (No Longer Available)
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: pidjones on May 13, 2021, 06:17:59 AM
If the kid behind the parts counter doesn't know what points are......   don't be surprised.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 13, 2021, 12:53:05 PM
I looked again and found the holes for felts.   I may change my user name to numpty.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: m in sc on May 13, 2021, 01:05:52 PM
keep in mind, an rd points cam spins a LOT faster than a car one. a car one will see maybe 2500 rpm (if you wind up the motor to 5k).  an rd one can see 8-10k. it will sling the grease off.

Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: SoCal250 on May 13, 2021, 01:25:03 PM
Greg, there are some NOS Yamaha felts on Ebay but they're not cheap
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: 85RZwade on May 17, 2021, 01:19:54 AM
Quote from: SoCal250 on May 13, 2021, 01:25:03 PM
Greg, there are some NOS Yamaha felts on Ebay but they're not cheap

You mean: Numpty, there are some NOS...
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 17, 2021, 10:11:41 AM
I'm working my way toward earning the capital "n".  I ask all the stoopid questions, twice, so  others don't have to!
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: m in sc on May 17, 2021, 10:23:42 AM
I prob have this stuff laying around.  been busy lately but ill try to dig into my ign stuff see if I can find one
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 17, 2021, 04:46:21 PM
I robbed a set of felts off of another unit so I'm all set, for now.  I'll buy another set off ya for the next one down the line though.
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: m in sc on May 17, 2021, 04:59:57 PM
nice.  :clap:
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: Greaser Greg on May 17, 2021, 06:29:24 PM
I always knew about the mineral oil on the felts.  I took an ignition off of a 250 parts motor and there were not felts on it, just a bunch of reddish brown grease on the cam.  So, being a trusting fool decided that must be an ok way to do it, right?  :eek:
Title: Re: Points cam lube
Post by: m in sc on May 18, 2021, 10:30:32 AM
I thought abotu this last night. we picked up a vintage fan over the weekend and it needs rewiring and servicing. upon taking the motor apart, there are -two- oiling ports on top, which lead down to a felt that is in front of a bronze spherical bushing the motor shaft rotates in. that thing is almost 75 years old, and in great shape. the oil had just dried out but zero signs of shaft wear.  :twocents: