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Title: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: Pravin on October 23, 2021, 04:48:08 AM
Hi all ,

I have gone through the thread in older forum but am not able to find it here ..

Does anybody have the information on how I can dampen the loudness ?

Regards,
Pravin

Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: m in sc on October 23, 2021, 07:28:19 AM
keep the baffles  packet correctly,  and add some turndown tips at end . will help *some* take some of the bite out of the tone
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: sav0r (CL MotoTech) on October 23, 2021, 07:53:09 AM
Fixing the stinger helps too.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: Pravin on October 23, 2021, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: m in sc on October 23, 2021, 07:28:19 AM
keep the baffles  packet correctly,  and add some turndown tips at end . will help *some* take some of the bite out of the tone

Hi SC ,
Whats turned down tips ? YES Baffels are not fully sealed over the exhaust port amd gona seal it some how ..

I recollect some one opened up the rear can n added glass wool or something..

Pravin
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: 85RZwade on October 23, 2021, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: Pravin on October 23, 2021, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: m in sc on October 23, 2021, 07:28:19 AM
keep the baffles  packet correctly,  and add some turndown tips at end . will help *some* take some of the bite out of the tone

Hi SC ,
Whats turned down tips ? YES Baffels are not fully sealed over the exhaust port amd gona seal it some how ..
(https://www.bikesrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Schwantz-1993.jpg)

Like those!

I recollect some one opened up the rear can n added glass wool or something..

Pravin
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: m in sc on October 23, 2021, 04:04:55 PM
yup. slight turndowns cut it some. as above.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: rd400canuck on October 23, 2021, 04:24:40 PM
Not sure if it works but I remember reading a post someplace where the guy took a strip of sheet metal... the length of the inside of the silencer and at a width of the diameter of the perf core... gave in 1 twist so it was long cork screw, put it in and tack welded it in place. Apparently the exhaust pulses deflect off it and ere directed more into the packing without really restriction flow.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: Pravin on October 23, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
Quote from: m in sc on October 23, 2021, 04:04:55 PM
yup. slight turndowns cut it some. as above.

Without cutting the sections open there is no other way ?  :umm:

The turn down I can understand is add a slim pipe section instead of the cylindrical last section and then add canister at the end right ?
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: 85RZwade on October 24, 2021, 12:51:34 AM
This:

(https://i.postimg.cc/yYCwG3F5/4678-A8-A8-0511-449-E-989-B-6-E8206-FE9-ADB.jpg)
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: m in sc on October 24, 2021, 08:10:11 AM
Quote from: rd400canuck on October 23, 2021, 04:24:40 PM
Not sure if it works but I remember reading a post someplace where the guy took a strip of sheet metal... the length of the inside of the silencer and at a width of the diameter of the perf core... gave in 1 twist so it was long cork screw, put it in and tack welded it in place. Apparently the exhaust pulses deflect off it and ere directed more into the packing without really restriction flow.

I tried that at one point. doesn't do shit.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: rd400canuck on October 24, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: m in sc on October 24, 2021, 08:10:11 AM
Quote from: rd400canuck on October 23, 2021, 04:24:40 PM
Not sure if it works but I remember reading a post someplace where the guy took a strip of sheet metal... the length of the inside of the silencer and at a width of the diameter of the perf core... gave in 1 twist so it was long cork screw, put it in and tack welded it in place. Apparently the exhaust pulses deflect off it and ere directed more into the packing without really restriction flow.

I tried that at one point. doesn't do shit.

lol I thought it was too good to be true
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: pdxjim on October 24, 2021, 02:28:53 PM
Turn down tips don't really do much either.

The TYGA shorty cans on my Garrett pipes have turn down tips and they are LOUD AF!

Strangely, the TYGA Classic cans on my TDR Martin77 pipes are just two inches longer, but WAAAY quieter.

What's up with that?

(https://i.ibb.co/S67QZBw/EFA41-F24-2-C58-4407-AD0-B-40-ACFE021893.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/KwkD54R/e-Pys3-Om-L1-Fsa-CDSTRRLHx-JNwf-Ss-QSK-Uxb8-Pp-ESQiy-Z3qi8hdy-JUWVNJ1-DB6-Ue-GMI5vy-AFlce-Dp-JIt-CEf.jpg)

Actuall, after a second look, the tips really dont turn down much.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: m in sc on October 24, 2021, 08:59:45 PM
no you need a good curve to it. it def helps.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: Striker1423 on October 25, 2021, 09:40:14 AM
Whoever said size doesn't matter was lying! Ba Dum Tissss...

But look at suppressors on firearms. They work in a similar fashion. Short ones just don't have the volume to absorb and dampen loud noises like longer ones.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: pidjones on October 25, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
Soft foam ear plugs work for me.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: rodneya on October 25, 2021, 02:17:45 PM
Type of intake will affect the noise level as well. Pods make your bike a lot louder than an air box, or even a y boot.
I thought the DG pipes on my bike were quiet. They are made out of pretty thick steel which helps eliminate the ting ting sound a lot
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: Pravin on October 27, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: 85RZwade on October 23, 2021, 03:21:26 PM
Quote from: Pravin on October 23, 2021, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: m in sc on October 23, 2021, 07:28:19 AM
keep the baffles  packet correctly,  and add some turndown tips at end . will help *some* take some of the bite out of the tone

Hi SC ,
Whats turned down tips ? YES Baffels are not fully sealed over the exhaust port amd gona seal it some how ..
(https://www.bikesrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Schwantz-1993.jpg)

Like those!

I recollect some one opened up the rear can n added glass wool or something..

Pravin

I got this :) will look ugly thogh without canisters if I just put the turn downs right
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: Pravin on October 27, 2021, 11:25:23 AM
Quote from: rodneya on October 25, 2021, 02:17:45 PM
Type of intake will affect the noise level as well. Pods make your bike a lot louder than an air box, or even a y boot.
I thought the DG pipes on my bike were quiet. They are made out of pretty thick steel which helps eliminate the ting ting sound a lot

I have to I guess first seal the exhaust flanges nicely so there is no trang frang smoke coming out and adding the noise

Then I will try the turn downs ..how about opening the end caps and adding some glass wool wraps ?
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: m in sc on October 28, 2021, 10:46:21 AM
The baffles should absolutely be packed with muffler packing. if they aren't already, do that 1st. Might be all you need if they aren't.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: IR8D8R on October 28, 2021, 11:51:56 AM
The chambers on that TDR look so otherworldly organic. I'm almost disturbed by them. Very sci fi look...

IR8D8R
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: 85RZwade on October 28, 2021, 04:19:53 PM
I've been to Jim's place, and those pipes are really cool in person. The TDR is just a really neat bike altogether.
Title: Re: How to Dampen the noise level for DG chambers
Post by: pdxjim on October 28, 2021, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: IR8D8R on October 28, 2021, 11:51:56 AM
The chambers on that TDR look so otherworldly organic. I'm almost disturbed by them. Very sci fi look...

IR8D8R

Martin has gotten really good at hydroforming over the years.

I believe he uses a pressure washer to pressurize the pipes with water at over 2000psi.