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The 2-Stroke Garage => General Chatter => Topic started by: soonerbillz on January 25, 2022, 09:34:42 PM

Title: The Japanese aversion to #4
Post by: soonerbillz on January 25, 2022, 09:34:42 PM
You know it's a thing that Japanese manufacturers won't name bikes "4"
At least till recently
I read some time ago it's about the numerals attachment to "shi" or death.
The design of 4 cylinders as a regular thing makes me wonder.
We may be far beyond all those things now but still I wonder.
Title: Re: The Japanese aversion to #4
Post by: m in sc on January 25, 2022, 10:17:21 PM
cb400?
Title: Re: The Japanese aversion to #4
Post by: 85RZwade on January 26, 2022, 12:09:13 AM
The later version was called the CB-1...hmmmm

And what a cool little bike that was, for a diesel! Now I want one. They're probably $20K if you can find one. Oh, well.
Title: Re: The Japanese aversion to #4
Post by: soonerbillz on January 26, 2022, 01:15:13 PM
Quote from: m in sc on January 25, 2022, 10:17:21 PM
cb400?

I think that was so named as a
Ode to cc. I look a the YD & YDS series. How come no YDS4 ?
But then Honda did have the F4
I guess it's  just a cockeyed theory..
Title: Re: The Japanese aversion to #4
Post by: m in sc on January 26, 2022, 03:15:16 PM
I'll be honest. I'll never understand Japanese cultural nuances, nor do I really care to. But they can take weird to an unprecedented level, that's for damn sure.  And that in itself is pretty interesting.
Title: Re: The Japanese aversion to #4
Post by: Diablo007 on January 26, 2022, 03:44:09 PM
What about western culture's aversion to the number 13?... and all the crazy cultural things going on in the western world?...  If the early numbering scheme had been carried on it's likely the number 7 would also have been omitted.  4 - shi (alternate pronunciation, 'yon'), 7 - shichi (alternate pronunciation 'nana').  Shi sounds the same as the Japanese word for death but different characters are used.  The reason is the same as why it's frowned on to call a cigarette a 'fag'.

***EDIT***
I realized I had forgotten about the YDS7.  It's possible that by its release Yamaha had started to cater more to western markets.
Title: Re: The Japanese aversion to #4
Post by: Evans Ward on January 26, 2022, 07:17:38 PM
In Japan, the H2 750 Triple Mach IV was called the Mach III there. I've seen reproduction emblems of the Japanese Mach III online for sale too.