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Title: First time crank replacement
Post by: RD350NL on March 10, 2025, 03:43:52 AM
Hi all

I am planning on replacing the crank of my 352 aircooled rd250 engine (350cc top end) because the current crank is shot. Planning on installing a Vitos crank. I have never done this before but I have experience with top end replacement etc.

Can you share tips, dos and donts? Is there a detailed manual available?

I will also replace the seals. Tips for this are also appreciated.

Thanks so much!
Title: Re: First time crank replacement
Post by: RDnuTZ on March 10, 2025, 11:02:55 AM
HI, I am just curious here if there is any specific reason you are choosing to go with Vitos crank for your 1st install? I am getting ready to do my 1st install (2 actually) on USA air cooled 1973 RD250 and 1974 RD350. I have pulled apart a couple motors over the years but never rebuilt at this level. I liked the way Vitos are updated design and I also found HPR on eBay as well. Some of the more experienced guys on here have good results using both vendors. I bought 2 of the HPR versions and have not installed yet but they look very well done and were less $ (almost $90 each for me) so figured if I mess something up or crank isn't up to expectations upon install- it hurts less financially than 2 Vitos at this time :Clown:

I'm not expecting issues other than my own learning curve and am planning another build of backup engine that will probably have a little more HP and will use a Vitos for that 1.
Title: Re: First time crank replacement
Post by: 1976RD400C on March 10, 2025, 12:32:23 PM
Seal orientation and don't forget to install the clip on the gear side to lock it in place.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cg2v4yth/20250310-122029-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cg2v4yth)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9RdfVRVm/20250310-122111-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9RdfVRVm)
Title: Re: First time crank replacement
Post by: m in sc on March 10, 2025, 03:00:08 PM
^^ this.

I'll be curious about the HPR ones. i saw them but wasnt sure
Title: Re: First time crank replacement
Post by: RDnuTZ on March 10, 2025, 07:38:10 PM
thought you mentioned you used HPR before? Turns out the business is a crank builder and has decades of experience.

Here's a link to where I bought on Ebay with pictures of actual crank like I received. Notice difference between labyrinth seal on these and Vitos:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364763626086
Title: Re: First time crank replacement
Post by: m in sc on March 11, 2025, 07:10:18 AM
i'll be honest, the only diff on the lab seal i can see is the vitos one is anodized black. also, IMHO, the vitos rods look better/beefier. lastly, the vitos rods use japanese bearings. I'm not saying there's really any major difference, but it was a consideration. I've used a similar one, was an LC crank though, and it was 7? years ago for the lightweight. and its been great.

(https://2strokeworld.net/wp-content/uploads/lightweight-rd/final-motor-assembly1/monospine_engine_21.jpg)

Title: Re: First time crank replacement
Post by: RDnuTZ on March 11, 2025, 10:32:32 AM
good eye on the labyrinth seal  :thumbs:  I had never seen a black 1 before and didn't know if it was rubber, plastic, etc. HPR has Taiwan bearings (a step up from Chinese IMO) I DO like the design/construction of the Vito's crank best, but my 2 coming builds will have nothing more than common bolt on mods and few miles/hours ever to be ridden so HPR should be fine with my expected limited stress on them.
Title: Re: First time crank replacement
Post by: gargantua350 on March 11, 2025, 10:58:55 AM
Yeah I put a Vitos crank in my mine.  The lead weights fell out of the old crank and locked up the motor.  This was a few years ago and it's been problem free ever since the install.  I didn't know there was another crank manufacture for the aircooled RD. That's good to know.