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Title: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 02, 2026, 10:44:40 AM
I found the Jetting Poll spread sheet to check for jetting my bike. I didn't see anything that was close to my bikes build.
'77 RD400
4th over boar, stock porting, stock heads and stock VM28 carbs w/ Uni pods. HPI ignition, Chambers.

Could anyone please advise? Its an all new motor and dont want to mess it up,
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: automan on January 02, 2026, 10:47:39 AM
so, like, i mean, like
WHAT IS YOUR JETTING?
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 02, 2026, 10:54:08 AM
I for got to add some other info.

Banshee intakes with X-over pipe. Suzuki RM100 VForce 3 reeds.

The carbs that were on the bike were jetted with pods but all stock bike.
The main is a china jet with no markings, the pilot is a 30.
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: m in sc on January 02, 2026, 11:34:54 AM
stock carb internals? prob a 240-260 main jet w a 27.5 or 30 pilot. try one lean on the needle if the chambers are good, soecii, etc. if dg or something along those lines.. probably middle clip. is the needle stock oem?
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: SoCal250 on January 02, 2026, 01:05:38 PM
And I would recommend acquiring some genuine Mikuni jets from a trusted supplier :twocents:
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 02, 2026, 03:49:43 PM
Looking at the needles now. They are 5L1 and holders are 175P-2.
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: SoCal250 on January 02, 2026, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: X-Man on January 02, 2026, 03:49:43 PMLooking at the needles now. They are 5L1 and holders are 175P-2.
:thumbs: That is the original needle and needle jet for a US-spec RD400
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: quocle603 on January 02, 2026, 11:19:10 PM
Mark is in the right ball park. Go through the ranges and see what you need to adjust. Dave f mod may help out too with your set up
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: m in sc on January 03, 2026, 07:48:18 AM
also, since its a 400 have you removed the brass ball from the bellmouth @ 6.0clock, cleaned the airjet, etc? if not, that needs to be done 1st. if that airjet isnt clean, all the jetting in the world wont matter.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: RDnuTZ on January 03, 2026, 10:11:52 AM
curious what is the design/engineering purpose of the brass ball placed there by Yamaha?
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: m in sc on January 03, 2026, 11:56:02 AM
i know the answer to this actually. the idea was to use air from the airbox to feed the air jet to help equalize the pressure on the jet tube. was a still air point plumbed BACK to the airbox.  also used filtered air, some speculate that's the reason.. but... but then again.. so did the open one as the bellmouth.  Weirdly, suzuki tried this w the internally vented carbs ont he t500s, they are terrible. similar concept w the bridgeport H1 carbs.

the downside is its nearly impossible to service when the ball is in there. int he case of the suzukis, it got so weird they (stock) used a different jet tube series left to right on the 500s.

on a dead stock motor, i can see taking the ball out, cleaning it, then putting back in a threaded plug. but thats it.  ive never heard of a case where the ball was taken out, not returned, and it actually making the bike run worse.

 
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 03, 2026, 03:15:10 PM
Wow. Great info. Never heard of that. Would it be an upgrade to replace the carbs with bigger? Like stock Banshee carbs? Theres a set locally cheap. Anyone use Polini CP carbs? I have good luck with them on small boar bikes and peds. Fully tunable like Mikunis
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: RDnuTZ on January 03, 2026, 03:29:56 PM
stock Banshee carbs had a TORS system and most people chucked that and replaced with good throttle and cable set up to replace stock. I had 1 in 2001 and if I remember correct, they came stock with a thumb throttle instead of twist that was a part of that whole TORS thing.
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: m in sc on January 03, 2026, 06:16:22 PM
banshee carbs, stock, are actually smaller, 26mm.

the stock vm28s work very well.

Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: 2steve on January 04, 2026, 10:42:52 AM
Much time spent here trying to make RD400 stock carbs work better. Never was happy until I did the Dave F mod.

It's a world of difference. I highly recommend.
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 04, 2026, 01:10:38 PM
I found that in the search. Printed it out and going to the shop to get busy with that.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: quocle603 on January 04, 2026, 03:35:12 PM
You can always just buy r5 carbs. Just need to make an inlet for the oil injection or just run premix. If you decide to do the dave f mod, just order the parts from John at Economy Cycle and convert over. Your jetting on your main jet will drop a lot from from the 210-220 range to 170-180 (totally depending on your mods and performance parts).
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 04, 2026, 07:36:47 PM
Update.
I printed the info out. Drilled out the brass ball cover. Drilled the air jet to the 5/16"/2mm hole but the jets won't come out. My understanding is that you drill them out to the 2mm to get them out? Right?
The photos are just of the brass ball cover being removed.
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 04, 2026, 07:39:17 PM
As for jets. I have an account  with Treats. So that saves some money. But the needle and needle jet are coming from JetRUs.
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: SoCal250 on January 04, 2026, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: X-Man on January 04, 2026, 07:39:17 PMAs for jets. I have an account  with Treats. So that saves some money.
I would recommend spending a little more for genuine Mikuni jets :twocents:
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: m in sc on January 04, 2026, 08:17:18 PM
no. you drill it out to 2mm. thats it. or, 5/32". if ypu want you can tap it to 4mm an fit a threaded 2mm air jet, but a metered hole is the goal. make sure you have the po jet tubes and 5dp7 needles or the mod won't work
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: SoCal250 on January 04, 2026, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: m in sc on January 04, 2026, 08:17:18 PMno. you drill it out to 2mm. thats it. or, 5/32".
5/64"
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: X-Man on January 04, 2026, 09:00:28 PM
OK. Got it. I stopped at the 5/64". All other jets are on order. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: m in sc on January 04, 2026, 10:10:26 PM
yup. 5/64th. typoooo
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: quocle603 on January 05, 2026, 03:45:23 PM
Sausage fingers will do that. 😆
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: m in sc on January 05, 2026, 04:12:46 PM
*guilty
Title: Re: Another Jetting question
Post by: SoCal250 on January 05, 2026, 05:18:04 PM
Quote from: quocle603 on January 05, 2026, 03:45:23 PMSausage fingers will do that. 😆
Quote from: m in sc on January 05, 2026, 04:12:46 PM*guilty
:dawg: