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Title: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: MRDRcycle on May 14, 2026, 10:47:45 PM
I tested out PJ1 case paint on my ignition cover and it looks more like flat black vs satin. It doesn't come close to matching the original black and am wondering if I got a bad can or if this is correct?

I sanded down to bare metal, used self etching primer, then pj 1 primer, then pj 1 satin black case paint.
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: JKV45 on May 15, 2026, 08:43:03 AM
Try Rust-Oleum High Heat Ultra.

You don't really need high heat, but the Rust-Oleum is much closer to a semi-gloss than most high heat paints.

I've used PJ-1 and VHT, and neither has done as well on exhaust as the R-O, and the R-O tends to look more OEM than the dead-flat paints.
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: 1976RD400C on May 15, 2026, 11:00:41 AM
After using a lot of that PJ1 satin black case paint, it doesn't look right. It should have a creamier look to it.
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: MRDRcycle on May 15, 2026, 11:53:44 AM
Thanks for the rustoleum suggestion. I bought a can of duplicolor ceramic yesterday. It's a deeper black and a little closer.

I was really hoping PJ1 would be all I needed. Maybe I got a dud can. Idk. Im trying to get things reasonable accurate, then paint the tank, side covers and etc. with an OEM color.
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: SoCal250 on May 15, 2026, 12:13:14 PM
I use VHT Caliper Paint, Satin Black SP739
https://www.2strokeworld.net/forum/index.php?topic=7078.msg58271#msg58271
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: MRDRcycle on May 15, 2026, 12:46:29 PM
Those look great! Thank you. I'm about to head to the auto parts store and will take a look at vht.

I'm painting outside too. I got tired of dodging the wind and eventually rigged up a spot in my shed. Haha
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: JKV45 on May 15, 2026, 01:11:13 PM
Quote from: SoCal250 on May 15, 2026, 12:13:14 PMI use VHT Caliper Paint, Satin Black SP739
https://www.2strokeworld.net/forum/index.php?topic=7078.msg58271#msg58271
That VHT does have a nice satin finish.

The Rust-Oleum High Heat Ultra has a semi-gloss finish.

Finding just the right gloss level and tone of black can be more challenging than most people think!
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: MRDRcycle on May 15, 2026, 04:12:10 PM
I had a scrap piece of aluminum and sampled low gloss duplicolor enamel, PJ 1 epoxy, and semi gloss duplicolor enamel. I ended up going with the semi gloss on the right.

I went to o Reilly and they didn't carry the vht. Tired of driving around and figured I'd give the duplicolor a chance.
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: SoCal250 on May 15, 2026, 06:04:55 PM
I get my VHT at Autozone
https://www.autozone.com/p/vht-spray-paint-sp739/419007
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: MRDRcycle on May 15, 2026, 09:21:44 PM
I saw it at autozone. I think the semi gloss I used is too glossy. I saw on the vht can that it needed to be baked to fully cure. Theres no way I can get away with that. Haha. I'm guessing I can get good results without heating it?
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: SoCal250 on May 16, 2026, 12:24:50 PM
VHT caliper paint needs to be baked to cure properly. Otherwise it will not have the durability. See my link I referenced above. I baked mine in the gas BBQ for about an hour at low heat (225-250F).
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: MRDRcycle on May 16, 2026, 10:10:07 PM
Thanks for the advice. Your cases look great. I don't think I can pull off the baking part of the process. I found a duplicolor satin black engine enamel that I think will work.

I'm guessing the pj1 should've came out "creamy" like this (maybe I would have had a better outcome painting indoors with pj1). The duplicolor nozzle seems more forgiving when painting outside.
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: m in sc on May 16, 2026, 10:45:00 PM
ive had extremely good luck with duolicolor caliper paint. low gloss os almost a dead match, no oven curing needed. just another option
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: MRDRcycle on May 16, 2026, 11:39:30 PM
Thanks man!  I saw that at o Reilly. I'll take a look at it.
Title: Re: PJ1 Satin Black case paint
Post by: LMS on May 18, 2026, 12:48:41 PM
The case on this bike is painted with PJ1 from two years ago. Maybe you got a bunk can.