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Title: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: quocle603 on September 13, 2020, 11:30:07 AM
Just got another set of expansion chambers. It had a slight dent on one of them. Decided to see how people pull dents and came across this, *friendly reminder to clean out your oily pipes before proceeding*. I think I will just leave the dents  :eek:

Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 12:51:04 PM
I used that method on a 4 stroke dirt bike header.  I had an expansion plug in the one side that apparently wasn't in tight enough.  I don't remember how much psi I had going in but the plug going shooting across the garage was pretty impressive.   :dawg:
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: rodneya on September 13, 2020, 01:09:12 PM
Dirtbike pipes have a flange on both ends. If you do it properly you use a u bolt or something around the pipe bolted to a plate over the plug.
On an RD pipe I would probably weld something onto the pipe to tie  back to. Or just cut out the damage and weld in a new section.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: lawnboy on September 13, 2020, 03:20:04 PM
cobbled these together to fix my pipelines. valve on the end allows some air to escape but still provide enough pressure to expand the the dent. a little nerve racking still but worked like a champ.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: quocle603 on September 13, 2020, 03:44:51 PM
I've seen plenty of people get decent results with a pressure washers. I'm always weary and nervous when a method involves a extreme high and cold temps.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: Kawtriplefreak on September 13, 2020, 05:13:48 PM
http://www.2strokeworld.net/forum/index.php?topic=12.0
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: m in sc on September 13, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
as long as there is just liquid in there its fine. make sure you bleed all the air out...  when you have air in there its an issue. ive done destructive testing on vessels at over 20k psi (for work). trust me, its not exciting.  liquid doesn't compress. = nothing to expand and go boom when its released.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: quocle603 on September 15, 2020, 11:54:00 AM
I might try things out this winter. I will borrow an electric pressure washer from someone to do this.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: rodneya on September 15, 2020, 01:34:28 PM
Be careful with using water. the pressure is applied to the entire pipe and you are often more likely to split the pipe before pushing a dent out.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: fyingdg on September 16, 2020, 06:07:08 AM
https://www.hydra-force.co.uk/
I have a hydroforce for my dirt bikes and it works  great. I'm trying to make a new one that will work on older non flange pipes now.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: pidjones on September 16, 2020, 07:58:24 AM
I'd go with the manual pump. If you truely fill the entire system, one stroke could either a) bump the dent out or b) split a seam. Don't think the pressure washer can be that closely controlled.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: m in sc on September 16, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
IF you have a diverter valve inline from the pressure washer to the pipe it can be controlled very easily... but the manual one is the way to go.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: quocle603 on September 16, 2020, 02:45:30 PM
thanks for the input on the matter. I might just leave it, I've heard that the small dents do not do too much to the performance...but I might be devil's advocate.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: m in sc on September 16, 2020, 03:23:23 PM
small dents don't matter. if it really bothers you, drill it from the other side, knock the dent out with a punch, weld the hole back up.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: quocle603 on September 16, 2020, 09:16:13 PM
They don't. If it works,  then it works.
Title: Re: Pulling dents out of expansion chambers.
Post by: 50gary on September 22, 2020, 11:21:33 PM
I had a body shop friend pull a big dent from my current project gas tank with the spot welded "nails" worked so well it was funny 10 min tops.
  Cheers, 50gary