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Title: Tire Sizes
Post by: Diablo007 on September 15, 2020, 01:51:21 AM
I know there used to be a thread regarding rim and tire sizes but can't seem to find it.

My question is, will a 110/90 tire work on a 1.85 rim on an RD350.  I'd like sporty tires for the current build but have D.I.D. rims in 1.60 for the front and 1.85 for the rear.  To change to 1.85 front and 2.15 rear would mean going back to steel rims.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: Yamaha 179 on September 15, 2020, 06:05:57 PM
The stock RD rims. 1/6 and 1/85, work very well with 90/90 and 110/80 tires.  We were required to use OEM stock rims in Formula RD and those are the size tires we raced with and they worked, and looked, great.  I am partial to Avon's but there are very good tires of other brands that are a bit cheaper that work very well in both wet and dry conditions.
Lyn Garland
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: Diablo007 on September 16, 2020, 12:22:51 AM
Thanks Lyn!  For the rear tire size did you mean 110/90-18?  If not, will a 110/90-18 fit?
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: SoCal250 on September 16, 2020, 11:25:14 AM
110/80-18 is the more common choice


EDIT: spelling typo correction
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: m in sc on September 16, 2020, 11:42:04 AM
agreed. go for an 80 profile if you can.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: Diablo007 on September 17, 2020, 01:02:08 AM
So...it seems that 110/90 is way easier to find in a set of tires; 90/90-18 and 110/90-18.  I even have a set of BT-45's right now.  They were in the shop and I brought them home for some reason.  Maybe the RZ350, but that takes 110/80-18 too, so who knows...

In any case.  What would the downfalls be of a 110/90-18 be?  What brands of tires would it be easy to find in a set of 90/90-18 and 110/90-18?
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: sav0r on September 17, 2020, 12:07:44 PM
80 is shorter and should have a slightly less dramatic profile as a result. It also means shorter ratios. I run 90's, they are fine, 80's are probably fine too. The difference is 10mm.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: m in sc on September 17, 2020, 12:11:05 PM
agreed. its not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: KANDY on September 17, 2020, 12:55:03 PM
100/90/18 and 110/90/18 on mine.
The bike came with that and I just ordered without checking it here. Wish I had this info before.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: Diablo007 on September 18, 2020, 04:02:17 AM
Thanks everyone for the input.  Looks like I'll run the BT45's I have for now.

@Kandy; the tire sizes you listed are available in DP tires...you're running them on an RD with stock rim sizes?....  Hmmm....
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: quocle603 on September 22, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
 :jacked:

Looking to change out my tires for my RD. Any suggestion on what brand/style I should run?
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: IR8D8R on September 23, 2020, 08:03:23 PM
Can we start a list of 18" tires that are available and proper? I was just looking at this subject online a few days ago. I don't profess to have any advanced insight into what's best. Other people with better knowledge will have to add opinions on quality and personal experiences. Most common I see are Avon and Bridgestone BT-45. The BT-45 were by far the most recommended when I bought mine from several sources.

I hope that the more learned people will weigh in. I am just basing this mostly on a couple hours of keyboard time not trial. My focus was simply finding matched tires available in the most discussed sizes for front and rear.

I am running Bridgestone Battlax 110/80 rear and 100/80 in the front on my RD 350 and I have been happy with the combo. This is apparently slightly unusual with regard to the front 80% aspect ratio. More common is 90/90 or 100/90.

Bridgestone: BT45. They are also available in 100/90 and 90/90. So are BT46 which are apparently a longer wear option.
Avon:AM26. These are available in a soft race compound also. I believe Lyn Garland carries these.
Shinko: 712.
Metzler: Roadtec 01 110/90 and 100/90;
Continental: Road Attack; Conti Go; Continental TKV 11/12 (front has a vintage look); Conti Road Attack 3. An acquaintance (and 2SW member) who's opinion I trust said that the Conti tires are awesome. I believe that he is using an ultra soft compound. If you are a So Cal canyon basher or Appalachian mountain rider they may be right. 

I don't like the idea of mixing brands and tires of different series/design. I am sure that there are probably super great combinations possible if you do. I just don't myself. I also don't really care about long life or mileage. I would rather replace my tires multiple times than low-side into a ditch once because my tires were hard. At the same time I'm not gonna put gum slicks on my RD. ...Ok I might if there were any.

We have some pipe and oil threads. Can we make one for tires in the Speed Shop??

IR8D8R 
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: JB Weld on September 25, 2020, 06:41:22 PM
Like the idea of collecting tire data.

I ran Battle-axe BT-45 on my 74 RD. Don't remember the exact sizes though. Rear was very tight with stock gearing and 530 O-ring chain, and the front chopped in short order, which I heard others complain of after I purchased. They are great tires, but I am now running Avons and will be sticking with them based on my current impression.   :whoop:
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: 2t Fan on September 26, 2020, 03:14:24 AM
i use 3.00-18 (continental)  in front and a 100/90-18(michelin sirac) in the rear
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: pidjones on January 25, 2021, 02:37:56 PM
I just pulled the (cast) wheels from my 400c to have new tires mounted. The tires on it: front - 3.60 18 Dunlop with 2000 date code (rotation arrow backwards), 4.00 18 Goodyear with 1993 date code! Never run tires old enough to vote! Replacing them with Shinko 712 100/90 18 front and 3.50 18 rear. Both are labeled for the position they are going to. Tire mounting is one task that I don't have the tools/space/desire to do myself.

BTW, the rear did not rub, but it required the caliper to be loosened a bit to get it off. The old rear measured 110 mm at widest and the front 85.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: quocle603 on August 05, 2021, 11:00:57 AM
Quote from: quocle603 on September 22, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
:jacked:

Looking to change out my tires for my RD. Any suggestion on what brand/style I should run?

Sorry for the delay in response but I settled with Shinko: 712. I don't have a bunch of experience with a ton of tires but these were much better than whatever were on the bike when I got it.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: m in sc on August 05, 2021, 11:11:17 AM
i have a set of those on the 70 r5, which i rode today. they are pretty good. actually came in via the interstate today, did just fine .
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: pidjones on August 05, 2021, 04:18:59 PM
Shinkos seem very good on light and medium bikes. Tend to not handle a GoldWing's weight,  though. Does in mean they can't handle speed loading? Don't know. They seem popular on the Dragon, but there really isn't speed involved in 318 curves over only 11 miles. That's something like 4 times the turn frequency of Barber, but you can't carry near the speed through them (even without LEOs). I have Shinkos on my RD400c, but it will never (while I'm on it) see hard cornering or high speeds. They do feel comfortable cornering, much better than I remember the originals back in the '70s.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: m in sc on August 05, 2021, 05:04:52 PM
i actually have some on both my concourses. believe it or not, they do well. even well over 100 .  :twocents: are they better than a pilot road 5? hell no. but they are better than they should be.

Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: Striker1423 on August 05, 2021, 08:57:56 PM
Shinko 712's unite!

Mine haven't seen much in the way of miles or curves, but are holding up well.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: 85RZwade on August 05, 2021, 09:40:18 PM
I was gonna spoon a set of the Continental radials on the next project finished, but if folks are liking the Shinkos...many American dollars could be saved for candy and injector oil.
Title: Re: Tire Sizes
Post by: Czakky on August 06, 2021, 11:55:34 AM
Avon Roadrunners. Which are hard to find for a 110/80 rear right now...