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First time crank replacement

Started by RD350NL, March 10, 2025, 03:43:52 AM

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RD350NL

Hi all

I am planning on replacing the crank of my 352 aircooled rd250 engine (350cc top end) because the current crank is shot. Planning on installing a Vitos crank. I have never done this before but I have experience with top end replacement etc.

Can you share tips, dos and donts? Is there a detailed manual available?

I will also replace the seals. Tips for this are also appreciated.

Thanks so much!

RDnuTZ

HI, I am just curious here if there is any specific reason you are choosing to go with Vitos crank for your 1st install? I am getting ready to do my 1st install (2 actually) on USA air cooled 1973 RD250 and 1974 RD350. I have pulled apart a couple motors over the years but never rebuilt at this level. I liked the way Vitos are updated design and I also found HPR on eBay as well. Some of the more experienced guys on here have good results using both vendors. I bought 2 of the HPR versions and have not installed yet but they look very well done and were less $ (almost $90 each for me) so figured if I mess something up or crank isn't up to expectations upon install- it hurts less financially than 2 Vitos at this time :Clown:

I'm not expecting issues other than my own learning curve and am planning another build of backup engine that will probably have a little more HP and will use a Vitos for that 1.
1987 TZR250R Restricted Japan Domestic market bike (Project)
1977 RD400 (Project)
1974 RD350 (2) (Projects)
1973 RD250 (Project)
2022 Beta 300 X-Trainer, Yamaha Vintage MX, YZ (18)

1976RD400C

Seal orientation and don't forget to install the clip on the gear side to lock it in place.



'76 RD400 green  '76 RD400 red   '84 RZ350

m in sc

^^ this.

I'll be curious about the HPR ones. i saw them but wasnt sure

RDnuTZ

thought you mentioned you used HPR before? Turns out the business is a crank builder and has decades of experience.

Here's a link to where I bought on Ebay with pictures of actual crank like I received. Notice difference between labyrinth seal on these and Vitos:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364763626086
1987 TZR250R Restricted Japan Domestic market bike (Project)
1977 RD400 (Project)
1974 RD350 (2) (Projects)
1973 RD250 (Project)
2022 Beta 300 X-Trainer, Yamaha Vintage MX, YZ (18)

m in sc

i'll be honest, the only diff on the lab seal i can see is the vitos one is anodized black. also, IMHO, the vitos rods look better/beefier. lastly, the vitos rods use japanese bearings. I'm not saying there's really any major difference, but it was a consideration. I've used a similar one, was an LC crank though, and it was 7? years ago for the lightweight. and its been great.




RDnuTZ

good eye on the labyrinth seal  :thumbs:  I had never seen a black 1 before and didn't know if it was rubber, plastic, etc. HPR has Taiwan bearings (a step up from Chinese IMO) I DO like the design/construction of the Vito's crank best, but my 2 coming builds will have nothing more than common bolt on mods and few miles/hours ever to be ridden so HPR should be fine with my expected limited stress on them.
1987 TZR250R Restricted Japan Domestic market bike (Project)
1977 RD400 (Project)
1974 RD350 (2) (Projects)
1973 RD250 (Project)
2022 Beta 300 X-Trainer, Yamaha Vintage MX, YZ (18)

gargantua350

Yeah I put a Vitos crank in my mine.  The lead weights fell out of the old crank and locked up the motor.  This was a few years ago and it's been problem free ever since the install.  I didn't know there was another crank manufacture for the aircooled RD. That's good to know.