Lead in fuel once- why?

[teazer]

First we had TEL which worked well but caused health issues.

Then I think we had MTBE which turned out to be even worse.

Alcohol is not as unhealthy for humans and the planet but it comes with some disadvantages for old designs of fuel systems.  Modern vehicles don't have much of a problem, so I don't see it changing any time soon, so our job is to work out ways to mitigate those side effects on our old scoots.

And I am sure that's where the original post came from. Looking for ways to reduce the mechanical/chemical harm to our old bikes without causing more harm to our already damaged planet.

[Striker1423]

First we had TEL which worked well but caused health issues.

Then I think we had MTBE which turned out to be even worse.

Alcohol is not as unhealthy for humans and the planet but it comes with some disadvantages for old designs of fuel systems.  Modern vehicles don't have much of a problem, so I don't see it changing any time soon, so our job is to work out ways to mitigate those side effects on our old scoots.

And I am sure that's where the original post came from. Looking for ways to reduce the mechanical/chemical harm to our old bikes without causing more harm to our already damaged planet.

I think Carlin, for his many many flaws, had at least one thing right. We're a rash of fleas the planet would love to shake off. The planet's not going anywhere. Ethanol is useless as a fuel an really doesn't help save gas as much as we would like to think.

I'm no conspiracy nut, but with the onset of electric vehicles growing larger, the rash of "chip shortages" and the phasing out of gas vehicles across the globe (save the Chinese from that one lol, cause they don't give two shits LOL), we won't have to worry about keeping these old bikes going anymore as we'll either be distilling grain alcohol to fry top ends on or leaving them in showrooms as a by-gone era. Just my  .

[m in sc]

they are building gas stations like crazy around here, bit corporate ones. reality is, there's too much infrastructure in place for it to fade out anytime soon.  the chip things legit. I just bought 4 new fairly high end computers, most everything was out of stock.

[Striker1423]

they are building gas stations like crazy around here, bit corporate ones. reality is, there's too much infrastructure in place for it to fade out anytime soon.  the chip things legit. I just bought 4 new fairly high end computers, most everything was out of stock.

True enough. They're working on it in the UK, supposed to be no more new gas vehicles sold there by I think 2036? Hell, they have more bikes than us. Mayhaps it won't be in our lifetimes.

The infrastructure is legitimate aged trash though. Half the bridges in this country are over there expected lifespans. 

[m in sc]

i was referring to petrochemical infrastructure. we sell to a lot of oil and gas companies. trust me, its not going anywhere soon. Get worried when they cut back on trucking and air travel.

[pidjones]

Even in fairly low density East Tennessee, my worry is the over-paving of everything. Rainfalls are no worse than before, but concrete and asphalt don't perk very well. Flooding increases, then they blame the climate.

[scully]

They will always have fuel at the marina lol... and people worry about cars polluting 

[1976RD400C]

They will always have fuel at the marina lol... and people worry about cars polluting 

Did you ever price those Mercury 450R outboards?    $55K-$65K  EACH!   

[irk_miller]

Lead also prevents valve recession.  Funny thing: I have a 1979 C10 passed down from my great uncle.  He bought it new for his peanut farm in Sylvania, GA.  His farm ran off leaded fuel, but the C10 came with an unleaded fuel door, so he ripped it out to fit the leaded nozzles.  Then he deleted the catalytic converters.  LOL