If you were buying expansion chambers today,..What brand would you buy?

[suey1958]

I would agree with Teazer that the best looking pipes are the JL'$       (imo they would look better if they weren't quite as long though)

[paul1478]

I also think they sound the best.

[Seizer]

Me too. Shortened them up with some JL shorty carbon cans.


https://youtu.be/Zn_s0zsAbck

And with original cans


https://youtu.be/7EgLLC-FtqQ

[pdxjim]

Sounds great Chris!

I do agree the JL's sound fantastic when new.  Keep in mind tho, after a few hundred miles the zingy sound deadens quite a bit as the insides and silencers get coated with oil and carbon.  I got these for my TDR almost 15 years ago, and are hanging up in the garage currently as I've got other pipes on now.

[Seizer]

I bet those TDRs are so much fun. I've ridden cafe/sportbikes the majority of my life. This year I bought a Tuono and the upright riding position really makes it enjoyable. Now considering some drag bars on the RD too.


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[suey1958]

Sounds Great Seizer !

[Seizer]

Thanks!


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[quocle603]

It really depends on what you're looking for...I went to HVC cycle chambers because someone was selling them for 400 dollars shipped. I had them on and rode around a lot on the freeway, which was fine but when I moved back into the city, it was a different story. I ended up switching back to stock pipes and it was better on the low and mid range for me.

[GRA2STROKES]

Thanks for the good words jim about the pipes. I have used all the pipes mentioned above and they all have the same issue with the kickstand fortunately for me I can my own pipes and have total control over what's going on with them. For me and what I want to offer is a modified kickstand not really a relocation kit. My plan is to move the spring to the front side bs the rear and to cut the kick stand only keeping the very top and the foot. From there use a straight tube vs a bent rod that was designed to tuck under a stock pipe. You should end up with the same angle and length at the end of the day. A lot of people have just simply bent the kickstand to clear which causes the bike to lean over a ridiculous amount. 

I've ran Jim Loomas back to back with fpp and couldn't tell a difference other than they look very nice but are spendy. I've ran spec 2 classics his latest design for them to my pipes prior to owning them and hands down they way out performed spec 2 pipes. The first set of pipes I have built is going on a customer bike and my dad will be riding it to do the tuning. He has never ridden or used the pipes so I will report back with his input.


Garrett

You can check out my section for pics and what not.

[Dvsrd]

Anyone have an idea what a pair of Spec 2 classics cost these days? Mild steel raw/uncoated.

[85RZwade]

I would say check Gary's website, but...well, you know

[thatguy]

I would say check Gary's website, but...well, you know

That's some vintage internet there. :D

[SUPERTUNE]

Very close to $840 shipped to FL.
More for oversea's I would think.

[Striker1423]

Very close to $840 shipped to FL.
More for oversea's I would think.

I talked to him last summer. He said to MI it would be around $750. So perhaps the cost went up a bit.

[teazer]

Side stands are an issue alright.