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Rear caliper seized. What now?

Started by rd400canuck, February 27, 2020, 08:20:22 AM

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Evans Ward

1984 Yamaha RZ350
1976 Suzuki GT750
1972 Kawasaki H2 750 Mach IV

m in sc


rd400canuck

Bought some and put them in the drill press... worked like a charm :)

SoCal250

Quote from: Evans Ward on February 29, 2020, 07:06:11 PM
Dremel with wire wheel attachment.
Quote from: m in sc on February 29, 2020, 07:48:26 PM
yup. ^ works every time.  :clap:

Need to clean out some stubborn corrosion/deposits on a caliper seal groove so I'm going to pick up some Dremel bits. The ultrasonic had no effect on it.
What do you recommend for wire wheel type? Brass, steel, or stainless?
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

pidjones

Quote from: SoCal250 on October 01, 2020, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Evans Ward on February 29, 2020, 07:06:11 PM
Dremel with wire wheel attachment.
Quote from: m in sc on February 29, 2020, 07:48:26 PM
yup. ^ works every time.  :clap:

Need to clean out some stubborn corrosion/deposits on a caliper seal groove so I'm going to pick up some Dremel bits. The ultrasonic had no effect on it.
What do you recommend for wire wheel type? Brass, steel, or stainless?
Brass. There was a vendor at an auto show I went to last year selling brass Dremel brushes cheap I bought a handful and used them up over the year. They did a great job along with my 90 degree 1/8" chisel I made out of some spring steel.
"Love 'em all.... Let GOD sort 'em out!"

Djg8493

This is going to sound ridiculous but,  note when using wire dremel brushes, only use on low speed.  They will rip apart rather easily and the small wires are a pain to clean.  I recently had one get stuck in my foot and had to have a surgeon remove it.  (I know ridiculous) but when I looked I found those wires all over from cleaning up rusty parts.
1970 R5, 1975 Rd350, 1978 GT80, 1979 KZ400, 1988 Ysr50, 1990 GSXR750, 2006 WR450 SM, 2006 R6

m in sc

this is a good point. ive had them fly apart as well. low speed for sure. ever had a needle stuck in your eyeball to remove material when they find the rust ring? (steel wheel)  even when you were wearing safety glasses? i have. don't recommend it. 


Yamaha 179

The wire brush treatment is good for the interior walls but for the seal lands I use stainless dental picks and scrape the lands by hand.  Does a better job and gets all the rust out.
Lyn Garland

pidjones

I only use a $9 Harbor Freight wall-wart powered tool for the brushes. Not enough speed or power to do real damage. I even use it with a sanding drum to do the Bert Munroe thing to a gnarley toenail.

There is a product used to hold fiberglass insulation bats between floor joists called "lightning rods" - VERY stiff spring steel with sharpened ends. Bend one to a 90 and shape a blade on about 1/8" sticking out. Makes a great tool for getting into the seal recess. Just don't get carried away and gouge the aluminum.
"Love 'em all.... Let GOD sort 'em out!"

Diablo007

I use dental picks like Lyn.  Found them at a home show years ago for cheap as they were factory seconds, completely stainless.  You may be able to get used ones from your dental hygienist, but in my experience they were pretty worn.  I've found similar picks at hardware stores but they had plastic handles which didn't hold up well at all.
2 stroke junkie:
Too many motorcycles to list.  The highlights:
1973 Yamaha RD350 Cafe Racer project; 1983 Suzuki RG250 YammaGamma project; 1988 Yamaha YSR50/80 project; 1984 Yamaha RZ350; 1984 Yamaha RZ500

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SoCal250

Thanks for the advice. :thumbs: I have stainless dental picks so I'll give those a try. The caliper I'm working on is completely clean and smooth in the piston bore, but the seal groove is another story.
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

Diablo007

Also heard/read somewhere to use Simple Green and a green Scotch pad to remove the crystalized brake fluid.  Seems to work well.
2 stroke junkie:
Too many motorcycles to list.  The highlights:
1973 Yamaha RD350 Cafe Racer project; 1983 Suzuki RG250 YammaGamma project; 1988 Yamaha YSR50/80 project; 1984 Yamaha RZ350; 1984 Yamaha RZ500

forexer

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Quote from: motodreams on February 27, 2020, 04:40:10 PM
This has worked for me as well.  Try and make both pistons come fully out at the same time otherwise you will no longer be able to put pressure on remaining piston.

My caliper is also frozen heat and air won't move it.

I was going to try a grease gun but the standard zerk fitting threads are too small to fit the bleeder bolt hole /threads.

Do you happen to know what size zerks I need to order to get these suckers out?  Thanks

"DISREGARD" I found some stuff in my stash and was able to get them out with grease - now the fun part cleaning the seal grooves. :clint:


pidjones

Quote from: forexer on February 10, 2021, 08:24:45 PM
Quote from: motodreams on February 27, 2020, 04:40:10 PM
This has worked for me as well.  Try and make both pistons come fully out at the same time otherwise you will no longer be able to put pressure on remaining piston.

My caliper is also frozen heat and air won't move it.

I was going to try a grease gun but the standard zerk fitting threads are too small to fit the bleeder bolt hole /threads.

Do you happen to know what size zerks I need to order to get these suckers out?  Thanks

"DISREGARD" I found some stuff in my stash and was able to get them out with grease - now the fun part cleaning the seal grooves. :clint:
Great! I made a tool with very stiff ~3mm wire bent 90 degrees, cut, and ground to a chisel point. I use it to clean the groove and press Scotchbrite in to polish it. Then make sure plenty of brake cleaner and rags to clean out ang grit.
"Love 'em all.... Let GOD sort 'em out!"