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Started by 2t Fan, October 16, 2020, 05:00:47 PM

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2t Fan

Any pointers to a Vintage Smoke ignition installation on a RD350 ? Any youtube videos ?

m in sc

make sure its grounded correctly and the screws holding the pickups are tight. also, dont use the scotch lock to tap into the power, use a proper connection.

2t Fan

thank you

can you give some tips for a proper earthing , battery negative to engine nut ?

quocle603

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Quote from: m in sc on October 16, 2020, 05:59:35 PM
make sure its grounded correctly and the screws holding the pickups are tight. also, dont use the scotch lock to tap into the power, use a proper connection.

Did someone say scotch locks?  :whistle: :whistle:

There should be manual that comes with it or on Nick's VS site. Follow that or a simple dyna s one and adapt it to the RD.
Do not underestimate the power of a two-stroke.

1975 Yamaha RD350 (modified), 1973 Yamaha RD350 (stock), 1971 Suzuki T500, 1981 Yamaha XS650 HS2, 1982 Honda MB5, 1980 Puch Maxi, 1979 Puch Magnum, 1993 Tomos Bullet, 2003 Malaguti Firefox F15 LC

1976RD400C

Vintage Smoke web site has instructions.
'76 RD400 green  '76 RD400 red   '84 RZ350

m in sc

nicks ignition comes with a scotch lock to tie into switched 12v. I gave him endless shit about it.  :dawg:

thats the only thing bad i have to say about it.

AAAltered

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I've been around the block a few times with the Dyna from VS.

Here's some notes.

1) I had a pickup go bad a few years ago.  The "fix" was to by a new KZ900 Dyna on EBay for $116 and clone the pickup onto mine.  Now I have a spare pickup since the new unit comes with two.

2) Be very careful tightening the Allen screws on the pickup to base plate.  They are tiny and shallow - easy to strip.  Since the base plate is part of the VS secret sauce you don't want to F it up.

3)  I have the PDF instructions saved.  If you need them emailed, PM me.  Mark - perhaps you can host them in the tech library?

4) 100% ditch the Scotch connector,  mine was the definitive fault of my last problem with a cylinder cutting in and out.  Such a simple fix - Get blue bullet connectors at the auto parts store.  Snip the scotch off, add a male bullet, and plug it right into the connector for the coils.  That connector has an open position normally, it's crazy that a bullet isn't part of the original design.

Ditch this:



1971 R5
1976 RD200
2022 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special

quocle603

Follow the instructions properly. Nick did a good job on the guide to switch over to electronic pick ups.

Just a reminder (as said in the instructions):


1. Use a non steel washer for your m7 bolt because the lock washer can damage your rotor.
2. Don't leave the key on, it will fry your module.
3. Set your timing with a dial indicator and confirm with a timing light.

The famous video.


Do not underestimate the power of a two-stroke.

1975 Yamaha RD350 (modified), 1973 Yamaha RD350 (stock), 1971 Suzuki T500, 1981 Yamaha XS650 HS2, 1982 Honda MB5, 1980 Puch Maxi, 1979 Puch Magnum, 1993 Tomos Bullet, 2003 Malaguti Firefox F15 LC

2t Fan

thanks a lot for the important tips. i do have Nick 's the instructions doc. on my e-mail . My bike also had the issue of one cylinder cutting of which is some what sorted now after replacing those pick ups

Diablo007

If you work on a lot of motorcycles, or plan to, you may want to invest in a proper crimping tool and assorted connectors.  I believe Economy Cycle has starter kits, Cycle Terminal does also.  I have a Paladin crimper with multiple jaws that can be used for about any crimping job.  That and an assortment of connectors with proper sleeves is a big help with most of my projects 4 wheel, 3 wheel, or 2 wheel.  When I installed my Martek ignition I made a custom connector to use instead of butchering my wiring harness with a scotch lock.  Also, all your wiring repairs will look much cleaner than if you use the stuff at your local auto parts store.   :twocents:
2 stroke junkie:
Too many motorcycles to list.  The highlights:
1973 Yamaha RD350 Cafe Racer project; 1983 Suzuki RG250 YammaGamma project; 1988 Yamaha YSR50/80 project; 1984 Yamaha RZ350; 1984 Yamaha RZ500

pidjones

I believe Vintage Connections also carries connectors, shells, and proper (although very reasonably priced) crimpers.
"Love 'em all.... Let GOD sort 'em out!"

SoCal250

75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

quocle603

I always stock up on solderless crimps, just make sure you have a solid crimping tool, other wise you'll be pulling the wires out of the terminals when you need to test or adjust something
Do not underestimate the power of a two-stroke.

1975 Yamaha RD350 (modified), 1973 Yamaha RD350 (stock), 1971 Suzuki T500, 1981 Yamaha XS650 HS2, 1982 Honda MB5, 1980 Puch Maxi, 1979 Puch Magnum, 1993 Tomos Bullet, 2003 Malaguti Firefox F15 LC

m in sc

get the stuff from economy of you can. same stuff as vc, thats where i get mine. game changer.

leave the harry homeowner connectors for lamps and shit.  :wave:

smokah