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Started by rodneya, December 11, 2020, 02:27:32 PM

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rodneya

What do you use for shop / garage heaters?
It does not really get too cold her in Vancouver, but Im from Africa, so anything below 20C or 68F is cold to me.

I need to warm the garage up a bit to increase my enthusiasm to get things done as everything is just sitting at the moment.
Looks like the forced air kerosene heaters would don a good job of heating up the space quite quickly when needed.


85RZwade

Big 'ol inefficient wood stove made from a 55 gallon drum. Probably not what you're looking for...
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rodneya

Quote from: 85RZwade on December 11, 2020, 03:48:25 PM
Big 'ol inefficient wood stove made from a 55 gallon drum. Probably not what you're looking for...

Nope, neighbourhood wood have a collective shit if they smelled the smoke, Joys of living in suburbia.

pidjones

Quote from: rodneya on December 11, 2020, 02:27:32 PM
What do you use for shop / garage heaters?
It does not really get too cold her in Vancouver, but Im from Africa, so anything below 20C or 68F is cold to me.

I need to warm the garage up a bit to increase my enthusiasm to get things done as everything is just sitting at the moment.
Looks like the forced air kerosene heaters would don a good job of heating up the space quite quickly when needed.
Please make sure that any combustion-style heat unit is properly vented. Way too many people die of carbon monoxide poisoning each year from improperly vented heating appliances.
"Love 'em all.... Let GOD sort 'em out!"

jradnich

I just use a 110V electric heater. If it's real cold, I'll get a little propane radiant heater out. They seem to keep it warm enough for me.

Dvsrd

What about a heat pump? (Basically AC in reverse) With outside temperatures above 0C, or even better, above 10C,  a heat factor (heat output divided by electric power input) of 5 could be expected. Definitely low operating cost, but the initial cost may be prohibitive

pdxjim

Yeah, a mini-split heat pump would be awesome, but cost prohibitive for many (including me).
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sav0r (CL MotoTech)

My old man, being the top bloke he is, traded me his big turbo heater for my small propane turbo heater. He has a gas well so his garage is plenty warm. Mine on the the other hand, well it's a work in progress. I run the turbo heater on diesel since my car is a diesel, the heat is good. I've put a lot of effort into the sealing the shop up. It's an unfinished two car garage that was built in the 50's, but it's pretty comfortable through Pittsburgh winters. This year it has been really good, I got after it with spray foam and really knocked out a bunch of the leaky spots. I also fully paneled the interior walls this summer, being ceder shingles with plank backing it's not exactly air tight. Never mind the fact there's no legit ceiling (I put a ceiling up with plastic sheet for the time being).

Link below to the heater I have. Nothing special, the thermostat is mint though. I leave it at 50 when I'm not in the shop. The heat rarely runs even in the 20's. When I go in, I like to run it at 60 or 70. Sometimes I wear shorts and a tee out there, so the warmer option works nicely. I've used less than 5 gallons so far, even with a fairly abrupt snow a week ago. So maybe $10. It is a bit stinky at times... I should probably clean the spark plug.

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rodneya

Quote from: sav0r on December 12, 2020, 02:27:30 AM
My old man, being the top bloke he is, traded me his big turbo heater for my small propane turbo heater. He has a gas well so his garage is plenty warm. Mine on the the other hand, well it's a work in progress. I run the turbo heater on diesel since my car is a diesel, the heat is good. I've put a lot of effort into the sealing the shop up. It's an unfinished two car garage that was built in the 50's, but it's pretty comfortable through Pittsburgh winters. This year it has been really good, I got after it with spray foam and really knocked out a bunch of the leaky spots. I also fully paneled the interior walls this summer, being ceder shingles with plank backing it's not exactly air tight. Never mind the fact there's no legit ceiling (I put a ceiling up with plastic sheet for the time being).

Link below to the heater I have. Nothing special, the thermostat is mint though. I leave it at 50 when I'm not in the shop. The heat rarely runs even in the 20's. When I go in, I like to run it at 60 or 70. Sometimes I wear shorts and a tee out there, so the warmer option works nicely. I've used less than 5 gallons so far, even with a fairly abrupt snow a week ago. So maybe $10. It is a bit stinky at times... I should probably clean the spark plug.

https://www.grainger.com/product/3VE50?cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA

I ended up getting a smaller version of that, but propane.

2 Bays of my garage are under the house, so insulated, but the 3rd bay wall and ceiling are not insulated. The floor is slab on grade, so that is always freezing.
I dont want to heat the space all the time, just something to warm it up quickly when I want to do some work.

sav0r (CL MotoTech)

I'm slab on grade too, and that slab is in rough shape. At some point I am going to pour an overlay on the slab and then maybe cap it with an end grain wood floor. I'll install a permanent ceiling at the same time. That's a few years off for me. The turbo heater really kicks out the jams. It's not exactly friendly noise or smell wise, but otherwise it exceeds expectations. I generally try to keep it full of fuel with some extra fuel on hand. I'm not really the "prepper" type, but I figure if we should have a furnace failure or some other issue I could heat my home from the basement with the turbo heater. Hopefully enough to keep the pipes from freezing.
www.chrislivengood.net - for my projects and musings.

IR8D8R

My Egyptian employees in Abu Dhabi put on long sleeves and act cold if it goes below 80F. Seriously...

I had a cast iron wood stove in the garage but the Terra-cotta flue liner cracked when the chimney settled and I gave it to my GF's derelict relative with small kids and no heat in their house. That was a mistake of its own.

I have used one of those diesel turbo heaters but they stink and make your eyes water. Plus you have to have the doors open so you don't asphyxiate.

I need AC more. I was planning on ductless but the options for heat are limited. I need an old freestanding furnace or a high mount heater. Rather not spend $600 on the heat portion. Anybody built a waste oil burner? I wouldn't use the heat if I wasn't inside. I have considered a stainless-drum wood-burner. Losing floor space is hard.

IR8D8R

sav0r (CL MotoTech)

This one runs clean as whistle except for right at ignition. No fuel smell or anything on my clothes even after a long day in the shop.
www.chrislivengood.net - for my projects and musings.

2 Stroke Jamoke

Don't use diesel in those shotgun blower heaters! The fumes are horrible,  kerosene is way better as far as fumes go. I use one at work, I like to use the old school wick type kerosene heaters too. They heat up slower but are silent and really warm. :twocents:

Striker1423

Quote from: 2 Stroke Jamoke on December 14, 2020, 07:52:53 PM
Don't use diesel in those shotgun blower heaters! The fumes are horrible,  kerosene is way better as far as fumes go. I use one at work, I like to use the old school wick type kerosene heaters too. They heat up slower but are silent and really warm. :twocents:

Clean the wick every once in a while or your eyes will be burning ;). Used to work on snowmobiles in my buddies tool shed with one. Worked great, just light it and go back in the trailer for 2 hours so it can heat the shed up.

My preference is a forced air Propane heater off a 20 lb cylinder. Efficient? No. But, its basically stink free, heats my non-insulated garage up in 3 minutes when its 10 degrees outside and the snows crunchin'. Got mine from Menards for I think $75 bucks?