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A Lesson in Fail - a piston pin circlip escapes

Started by msr, October 07, 2026, 03:29:16 PM

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msr

In case you've ever wondered what might happen if a piston pin circlip works its way out, I can tell you it's not pretty. We installed this top end around 3 years ago. It probably has around 300 miles on it as a guess. Not sure if the clip was faulty or if it wasn't completely seated in the piston, but either way ... boom!

m in sc

yeah one of us did that. not sure who but was def an install fail.


It was Deron, tho.

msr

Quote from: m in sc on October 07, 2026, 04:05:52 PMyeah one of us did that. not sure who but was def an install fail.


It was Deron, tho.

It WAS Deron!

RDnuTZ

was that a Chinese cylinder kit? And why wasn't the tang removed from piston skirt? I thought that is basically standard procedure these days.
1987 TZR250R Restricted Japan Domestic market bike (Project)
1977 RD400 (Project)
1974 RD350 (2) (Projects)
1973 RD250 (Project)
2022 Beta 300 X-Trainer, Yamaha Vintage MX, YZ (18)

msr

Quote from: RDnuTZ on October 07, 2026, 08:30:03 PMwas that a Chinese cylinder kit? And why wasn't the tang removed from piston skirt? I thought that is basically standard procedure these days.

Yep, it was. The other cylinder was fine, and I know of at least two other bikes running those kits that have had zero problems, so ... ??? I'm betting we just missed it on assembly. As for the tang, it's smoothed inward to ensure it couldn't catch on the port but complete removal is always an option too.

rodneya

The clips on some cheaper pistons have no spring in them. when you push them in they stay bent and dont spring back against the piston

m in sc

the clips on mine are atill hanging in there. as farcasxthecceterctab, you can radius them back, the result is the sane

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m in sc

I've actually seen worse. to the cip point, the prox ones are def better. i would recommend using them and throwing the kit ones out.

RDnuTZ

Quote from: m in sc on October 08, 2026, 07:33:37 AMthe clips on mine are atill hanging in there. as farcasxthecceterctab, you can radius them back, the result is the sane

good to know, radiusing sounds easier and faster. Any negatives to completely removing re: skirt strength, fail rate etc.?
1987 TZR250R Restricted Japan Domestic market bike (Project)
1977 RD400 (Project)
1974 RD350 (2) (Projects)
1973 RD250 (Project)
2022 Beta 300 X-Trainer, Yamaha Vintage MX, YZ (18)

m in sc

zero risk doing it either way. just break the sharp edge w a file if you cut it. 

i 1st did the radius thing years ago as a test to see if it would work, have never had an issue.