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Title: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: rodneya on September 06, 2022, 07:06:18 PM
Mark Morrow posted these on Facebook. Coming soon for your RD from vintageperformanceproducts.
Looks like they will be available  in 6 different dome options..
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: m in sc on September 06, 2022, 08:39:02 PM
oooooooooohhh  :celebrate: :metal: :cheerleader:
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: paul1478 on September 07, 2022, 08:02:07 AM
they look great. Keep us informed if you can. I may be interested 
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: sav0r on September 07, 2022, 08:28:36 AM
Those must take some run time! Not getting chatter on those fins has to be quite tricky.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: Striker1423 on September 07, 2022, 08:44:31 AM
I mean, I'd buy 'em lol.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: rodneya on September 07, 2022, 10:19:49 AM
Quote from: sav0r on September 07, 2022, 08:28:36 AM
Those must take some run time! Not getting chatter on those fins has to be quite tricky.

Think I read 6 hours on the fins.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: IR8D8R on September 07, 2022, 02:03:57 PM
6 hours! I guess that's why the sunburst heads use heat-sink extrusions...

Great! Something else I need to buy. Billet stuff is like an addiction. Buy one piece and you're hooked. I almost went broke on billet RC car parts before. I definitely appreciate the stock-appearing design.

Since the B8HS are NLA would it be possible/worthwhile to use the opportunity to change to a spark plug with better availability? Or is using the resistor plugs no problem at all?

IR8D8R
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: m in sc on September 07, 2022, 02:11:04 PM
resistor plugs arent an issue. just use non resistor caps. and resistor plugs are NOT an issue on a cdi, been running them for literally 15 years w zero plug issues. 

zero resistance is an chooseable option:

https://www.economycycle.com/shop/yamaha-rd250350400r5ds6ds7-parts/electrical-ignitions-lighting/ignition/ngk-5k-spark-plug-resisitor-cover-lb05fp/
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: Dvsrd on September 08, 2022, 01:39:18 AM
Quote from: IR8D8R on September 07, 2022, 02:03:57 PM
6 hours! I guess that's why the sunburst heads use heat-sink extrusions...

Great! Something else I need to buy. Billet stuff is like an addiction. Buy one piece and you're hooked. I almost went broke on billet RC car parts before. I definitely appreciate the stock-appearing design.

Since the B8HS are NLA would it be possible/worthwhile to use the opportunity to change to a spark plug with better availability? Or is using the resistor plugs no problem at all?

IR8D8R

I hope he makes them for 3/4" reach plugs (i.e B8ES) instead of 1/2" reach. I believe the 400 and later 250 OEM heads had just that, 3/4" reach plugs.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: DaytonaCafe on September 09, 2022, 08:57:49 AM
These make my sticker peck out. DEFINITELY need a set once available!
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: bostontrackrat on September 23, 2022, 03:49:35 PM
I race with the owner of Vintage Performance in USCRA.  He's a really solid dude and a huge fanatic of 2 strokes.  His fully built Kawasaki H2 race bike is gorgeous and wickedly fast.  I've chatted with him about this project and it's really cool.  Looking forward to a set for my race RD. 

Pics of his H2 and my RD attached.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: IR8D8R on September 26, 2022, 03:49:08 PM
Working on the theory that if your bike is a deathtrap POS and you add new shiny bits, it will at some point cease being a deathtrap POS and become a nice machine?

At least by popular consensus since there's no real rating system.

Asking for a friend.

IR8D8R
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: m in sc on September 26, 2022, 04:12:11 PM
this is correct.  :patriot:
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: 1976RD400C on September 27, 2022, 08:09:43 AM
Looks like they will be $765
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: rodneya on September 27, 2022, 01:55:56 PM
Set installed on mark morrows race bike to some testing
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: 2steve on September 27, 2022, 02:24:29 PM
Seems like the "deathtrap" verbiage ties into the "Dumb idea. I'm doing it anyway" 2 stroke T-shirt concept that has been previously mentioned.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: 747drvr on September 27, 2022, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: IR8D8R on September 26, 2022, 03:49:08 PM
Working on the theory that if your bike is a deathtrap POS and you add new shiny bits, it will at some point cease being a deathtrap POS and become a nice machine?

At least by popular consensus since there's no real rating system.

Asking for a friend.

IR8D8R
i resemble that remark !!!   :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: Hawaii-Mike on September 27, 2022, 07:49:15 PM
What do you guys think of the VP logo on the sides of the heads?  I would rather not have the VP on them, maybe I'll change my mind later.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: rodneya on September 27, 2022, 10:43:24 PM
Quote from: Hawaii-Mike on September 27, 2022, 07:49:15 PM
What do you guys think of the VP logo on the sides of the heads?  I would rather not have the VP on them, maybe I'll change my mind later.

Looks like he will make up a bunch of heads and only cut the domes and oring grooves when an order is placed. May not be an option on the logo. I think it looks alright with the satin finish
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: 1976RD400C on October 02, 2022, 01:14:37 PM
Here's a quote fron Mark Morrow on his race yesterday:

"Huge thanks to all of my sponsors, but especially my newest sponsor, Vin Borbone, who created some pretty trick heads that turned out to be simple, easy, bolt on performance. The bike was a rocket ship from the first time I opened the throttle and I swear, it's gained nearly 500 more rpm in powerband width, as well as more power overall! "
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: Makr on October 16, 2022, 10:51:39 AM
Those heads are beautifully machined.
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: Johnnyterrific on October 25, 2022, 12:29:20 PM
Now listed on EBAY!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/334603396230?hash=item4de7eaa486:g:KPkAAOSw5k1jVd0s&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4GJi6bdcLcqUGsu1RLvIdRf05BGuPK5m3xm7HDtT1OnRB4GV7qARBrxG3oOkuCPOfjnj50O1V22Z%2Fben6QbTXI1i2qhmvx2xXeUsGMX1wAKGC0H04KisIFYKZi2qVVZ3pXjFBng9hU2G35s3wUUe1gEQ6dfbT28l3oc6531XhjJ0K99lUt9wzgU40UC0uLoZOdUUN7sdEXKJHqIYv0qz%2Fep%2F5Jcm18k6ZNiYuOyoCpa7QlJXeEv6RxGXKZfOP2B0a0RtGSF0XjI4NuvDYm%2FLc19NRDAS0OeMekjDOAQ4IRTT%7Ctkp%3ABFBMwvCq_4Fh
Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: busa1300 on October 25, 2022, 07:18:53 PM
The heads look beautiful, but the ebay listing shows a dyno graph with a high of 43hp at the rear wheel...
Is that a good number for a 400 ?
What kind of rear wheel HP do they do stock?


Title: Re: shiny billet heads for your RD
Post by: teazer on October 25, 2022, 09:54:41 PM
Good Question.  My interpretation of that chart was that with the billet heads there's a steady 1-2HP gain across the rev range compared to the stock 41HP. 

I would speculate that the difference would be larger on a modified motor, but maybe not.  I haven't tested different heads on an RD.  Does anyone know what difference say a DG head made on a stock motor for comparison?

They do look beautiful though and the machining is amazing.