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After all these years..
Like 30
Turned it up to 11, didn't you?
Noooooo.
Hate when that happens. In theory you can replace the woofer inside the case if so inclined. Guitar Center carries new speakers for fairly cheap dependent on what was in it. Would say on the back of the cone.
Bluetooth soundbar with a subwoofer had one mounted under my workbench which actually sounds great but they are so cheap and easy now. I do miss my vintage monitors I had years ago but I forgot them when I moved out divorce style, and well..
Bummer. It could be fixed with a replacement driver as mentioned above if you wanted to go that route. Or you could take the opportunity to upgrade fairly inexpensively to something more modern and save yourself some garage space.
I'm running this set up off my TV (and also phone) in the garage. Logitech z533 Speaker System (https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/speakers/z533-multimedia-speaker-system.980-001053.html)
Only about $100, works great and sounds really good. I added 15' speaker wire extensions (RCA M/F) to the OEM 6' wires so I could move the satellites further apart and up on the walls.
Quote from: SoCal250 on November 18, 2021, 12:40:12 PM
Bummer. It could be fixed with a replacement driver as mentioned above if you wanted to go that route. Or you could take the opportunity to upgrade fairly inexpensively to something more modern and save yourself some garage space.
I'm running this set up off my TV (and also phone) in the garage. Logitech z533 Speaker System (https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/speakers/z533-multimedia-speaker-system.980-001053.html)
Only about $100, works great and sounds really good. I added 15' speaker wire extensions (RCA M/F) to the OEM 6' wires so I could move the satellites further apart and up on the walls.
That really is a tempting system..
I'm so big on vintage..bikes, cars and music.
I've had these so long that my brother doesn't even remember I stole them from him. I hate the idea of walking into my shop and they not being there.
Quote from: 85RZwade on November 17, 2021, 10:07:20 PM
Turned it up to 11, didn't you?
One day you and me are gonna meet and have a conversation.. :whistle:
That's actually my retirement plan. "As you wiiiissshhhh..."
Would you toss a bike because it has a melted piston? Put a new speaker in the cabinet and rock on!
Quote from: pidjones on November 19, 2021, 07:30:42 AM
Would you toss a bike because it has a melted piston? Put a new speaker in the cabinet and rock on!
This^
Dependent on size, ohm's, etc. They can be had for anywhere from $25 and up. Easy fix really.
Most likely you blew the main woofer. Cabinets like this are typically ran in series, so you blow one speaker the rest go out. I'm guessing you have a bass woofer, mid-woofer and tweeter in that cabinet. Speakers blow when over-driven. The speaker cone is driven by a magnetic field. There's a coil with a magnet wrapped around the outside of it. The impedance of the signal is what attenuates the magnetic field in the voice coil and drives the cone of the speaker in and out at varying frequencies, thus creating sound.
When a speaker is over-driven, two versions of a blown speaker can happen. Usually dependent on the age of the cone and what its made of (paper vs synthetics etc), the actual cone of the speaker breaks. The outside ring of the cone is typically a bellows that vibrates the most. On newer drivers it is a synthetic foam that allows the movement of the cone back and forth, thus creating pressure waves inside the cabinet and outside as well. The inner rings of the cone past the foam outer are typically a harder material (the paper etc again). These rings are attached to the center of the voice coil. As the voice coil vibrates based on the wattage put to it, the over-driven coil forces the cone past its allowable movement and the cone breaks away usually at the voice coil. This results in horrible clanging scratchy sound as the air pressure waves are destroyed with the cone of the speaker.
The second is a voice coil failure. This happens when a speaker is driven past its wattage peak. This is why a lot of subwoofer car guys blow speakers. The wattage is way too high, and the voice coil physically snaps. If the coil breaks and or is burned to its breaking point, you will hear a pop and then nothing. It will then let the smoke out and present your nostrils with that crispy fried electronics smell. Then absolutely no sound will come from the speaker at all.
Both are catastrophic and both require replacement of the speaker. OR, in the case of a cracked cone, copious amounts of silicone if you REALLY don't want to replace anything.
:metal:
Wander around in here:
https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-aHRo-ak9AIVBa-GCh1LhwsSEAAYASABEgIHsPD_BwE
Sure you can find the, or a pair, of replacement speakers rather cheap.
Likely better to buy a matched replacement pair then trying to match a vintage one.
Look for the same OHM rating, and if you can find the blown speakers specifications,
try to match those as the ratings of the crossover is designed for various factors.
To add to the post above. It is possible to blow the resistors or capacitors
in the crossover network. And that will drop out one or more of the drivers
sound production.
My vintage JBL L65 fry'd a resistor and the mid-driver stopped making sound.
There are a few guys who can rebuild speakers out there. New coils, cones, and surrounds. I can't tell from the photo if those are good quality vintage speakers or not. JBL?
I had some Advent speakers rebuilt a few years ago and they came back like new. It was not more expensive than buying replacement speakers and a lot easier to put back together. They don't make them as well today as they did originally unless you spend a lot of money on high end which probably won't fit exactly.
Check the internet for speaker repair. I was surprised how reasonable it was.
You can also get replacement parts and do it yourself. There are videos on YouTube. My father did some a while back and it wasn't that difficult. It was his first time on YouTube ever.
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I'd fix them. The landfill probably wont miss them, and they have a backstory.
Quote from: so-cal-sdr200 on November 19, 2021, 11:10:06 AM
Wander around in here:
https://www.parts-express.com/speaker-components?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-aHRo-ak9AIVBa-GCh1LhwsSEAAYASABEgIHsPD_BwE
Sure you can find the, or a pair, of replacement speakers rather cheap.
Likely better to buy a matched replacement pair then trying to match a vintage one.
Look for the same OHM rating, and if you can find the blown speakers specifications,
try to match those as the ratings of the crossover is designed for various factors.
To add to the post above. It is possible to blow the resistors or capacitors
in the crossover network. And that will drop out one or more of the drivers
sound production.
My vintage JBL L65 fry'd a resistor and the mid-driver stopped making sound.
Absolutely, the crossover could also let the smoke out. Though, those are also repairable if you dig in and replace the crispy bits.
I had a 15" reconed decades ago. They replaced the voice coil with it, too.
There is basically nothing in a speaker box that can't be repaired or replaced. Not much has changed in a long time.
I built a set of transmission line speakers, which are pretty similar to how an expansion chamber works. The math is mind-boggling and I don't even come close to really understanding it. That said, they sound incredible. Nice speakers are a lot of fun. Someday I am going to build a turntable.
For speaker repair or replacement try these guys. They replaced the foam surrounds on the woofers from my speakers about 10 years ago and did a great job. The price was very reasonable.
https://www.simplyspeakers.com