Expansion Chamber ID help please

[Barto]

I found these for sale.  To my inexperienced eye they look like DGs and I would pass.

The guy thinks they are for RD350 or 400.  $100.

Would they be a decent street pipe for a stock or mildly (pipes, boost, squish, 30mm VMs, emission removal) modified 400F?  I am capable of fab work to change flanges etc.

Thanks!

[The Red Scourge]

I don't think they're DG's.  If I had to guess I'd say Bassani's.  I'm probably wrong though!

[Barto]

Thanks, hmm... from what I remember of the old thread on the original site, Bassani was a good brand.  I remember I liked his ads.

Second attempt to find the pipe id thread paid off:

http://www.2strokeworld.net/forum/index.php?topic=177.0

I'm no wiser after the first page, will dive deeper after dark.

It's a 3 section chamber with an integral silencer.  I guess the integral chamber suggests a street pipe.

[m in sc]

look like bassani to me. def not j&r. how long is the silencer, thats the defining feature usually. they are super long on the bassanis. unless they are allspeeds or another uk brand?

[RDFL]

Pic of Bassani on page 3. -- http://www.2strokeworld.net/forum/index.php?topic=177.30

[m in sc]

^ thanks.
yup bassani. the cone welding around the mount confirms it to me

[RDFL]

The fifth reply here, I thought these might be J&R's (look shorter than Bassani). --  www.2strokeworld.net/forum/index.php?topic=1086.msg11007#msg11007

[Barto]

 OK, thanks guys!  So, should I grab them either way?  Considering my previously mentioned build plans?  Or should I be saving my sheckels for SpecIIs or the new Moto Carreras?   It is highly unlikely  they will bolt on to my 400F.   Of course if they are good pipes I would want Garrett's sweet new flange mounts anyway.

Thanks for your input!

[JB Weld]

They kind of look like Bassani from what I remember (old forum) they don't exactly look like DG as the silencer is one diameter the entire length.

[Barto]

Thanks!  I'll see if the old Pipe ID Thread was save-able from the old thread.  I took our venerable SiteMaster's advice and saved everything I could at the time.  I remember that what was there did not go very many pages deep.  Hopefully there will be someone's recollections about them.

Did anybody run them?  Any advice?  Thanks! 

[m in sc]

excellent old school street pipes. for the money, yes, grab em. ive seen busted dgs going for more and by comparison, not nearly as good. 

[Dvsrd]

^ thanks.
yup bassani. the cone welding around the mount confirms it to me

Makes sense, definitely not Allspeeds anyway. Allspeeds have a slight increase in diameter before the muffler. Also, the mufflers are fitted straight on to the baffle cone, so they angle out a bit at the rear.
But the design of headpipe/ divergent cone/parallel section/convergent (baffle) cone is very much like Allspeeds and Higgspeed RD pipes. Maybe those two companies copied Bassani, at least to a degree?

[Barto]

excellent old school street pipes. for the money, yes, grab em. ive seen busted dgs going for more and by comparison, not nearly as good. 

Thanks a bunch, I'll take a stock muffler and head pipe with me and go take a look.

[SUPERTUNE]

Bassani pipes...I can tell by the pipe mount strap and the stinger clip in baffle.
I have a set still and won't sell them...love the old school look of them.
Great power, way better than DG, but all torque!
They don't rev much but a blast to ride on F cylinders with low exhaust port if a US 2V0 cylinder.
Chuck

[Barto]

Thanks Chuck, dammit!  I was a little too late and missed out.  Arg! :(

You snooze, you lose!  Back to saving my sheckels...