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The 2-Stroke Garage => Haus of Projects => Topic started by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 11:27:45 AM

Title: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 11:27:45 AM
I never intended to do a build thread on this bike so I am lacking a lot of progress pictures but since it isn't quite finished and I am chasing a few little problems I decided to put it here instead of the show off section.

1973 Rd350 that I bought for $150 off of Craigslist years ago.  It was pretty much complete but was a little crusty.  Last registration in it was 1979 and I assume that was the last time it was on the road.  I believe it sat inside most of that time but the elements still got to a lot of it.  It didn't really matter as most of it wasn't used anyways.
The pictures make it look nicer than it really was.

(https://i.imgur.com/LB7Hz6N.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: quocle603 on September 13, 2020, 11:35:44 AM
Cool! Keep us posted. I have a 73 with a sissy bar as well, I think I can officially take it off since my gf knows how to ride now. MORE HP baby! 

I remember someone posting a 73 with one on a two stroke page and people gave  him so much crap for having it with comments like "It's an RD, not and HD".  :blah:
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 11:39:51 AM
Here is where I ended up at.

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Some details of the bike. 

Motor rebuilt with stage 1 porting and heads cut, crank rebuilt, and running pwk28 carbs with a powerdynamo ignition.

JL mild steel pipes

Stock Rd350 rear brake and tx500 front hub with rd discs.  Excel rims(2.15 front, 2.5 rear) and stainless spokes. Nissin radial master cylinder with 3/4" bore(19mm)

Rd400 swingarm, tx500 front forks, aftermarket steering damper.  Progressive rear shocks(13.5", I think) and racetech front springs.  Fork tubes are from a Yamaha XS which are longer than the rd tubes.  This pokes them out above the triple clamp and allows the clipons to be mounted above the triple rather than below.

Tz350c aluminum tank, tz350 seat from Meadspeed and Airtech front fender.  Rear of frame was cut off and re-tubed to fit the seat.

Fast from the past rearsets, Tazzori clipons, Speedhut tach/speedo.

Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 11:48:58 AM
There is a lot of hate for the dual disc on a rd but I like the look of it.  I did my best to keep the weight down as much as I could.

I thinned down the stock discs to 5mm on the lathe and each one got 100 3/8" diameter holes drilled in it.  The carriers were lightened up a little where I could.  The front hub was also lightened up some and the speedo drive deleted.  Calipers are aftermarket aluminum with 202 Eric's aluminum pistons.  Stainless lines were done via the Supertune method using AN fittings and separate lines.

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Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 12:08:07 PM
The TZ tank was an entire project in itself.  As a lot know, the tz350a tank will pretty much drop onto a rd frame.  This tank was from a "C" which is the mono-shock bike but the tank looks the same other than missing the sump that the earlier tanks had.  In my stupidity I assumed that the tanks were pretty much the same and just the sump was different.  Well that was WRONG.  The underside of the tanks are completely different and the "C" tank does not drop onto and fit a rd frame.

I discovered this after winning the ebay auction and anyone that watched TZ parts will know that the parts don't go cheap.  This tank was no exception.  To make matters worse after getting it and poking around there was quite a bit of body filler it it from years of racing.  I don't believe the seller knew how rough it really was under the paint.

Well it was decision time, try to re-list it on eBay and most likely take a bath on what I paid for it or start cutting.

Well, pictures should tell what the decision was.

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Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 12:15:58 PM
Cutting the bottom of the tank out did allow me to access the inside and pound a lot of the dents out.  The tank still isn't perfect and I still had to use some body filler in it.  I have a feeling these tanks were a little rough on the bodywork when they were new. 

Here is a few pics of the rear frame.

(https://i.imgur.com/5bVAnax.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 12:21:40 PM
Here is what I did to rubber mount the JL pipes in the rear.  I started out with a 1/2" bolt and milled two flats on it to fit the slots.  The heads of the bolts got faced off so the pipes don't stick out any further then they have to.  They were then drilled and tapped 5/16".

The pipes were drilled out to fit a rubber grommet and a shoulder bolts holds the whole thing up.  It came out pretty good.

(https://i.imgur.com/8VQ8zES.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xZiI6Hz.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on September 13, 2020, 12:36:25 PM
2 problems I need to sort through on it right now.

1, the gas cap leaks.  The seal and spring were both new.  The top lip of the tank was a little rough which I thought was the problem.  I filed/sanded the marks out to a flat area for the seal to sit on.  That may have helped a little bit it still leaks.

Anyone with any experience on the TZ caps have any suggestions? 

2, the electronic/gps speed is not happy with no battery in the bike so I need to add something.

I need to get it painted but I would like to get the gas cap sorted out before I do.  The jetting is also a little rich but rideable so I may not screw around with it too much more this year.
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: RDFL on September 13, 2020, 02:49:33 PM
Very nice, impressive work on the tank.
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: m in sc on September 13, 2020, 07:00:01 PM
 :righteous: :patriot:
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: RustyRD on September 13, 2020, 08:04:36 PM
The bike looks fantastic, I am really liking the wheels and front brake setup :bacon: :clap:
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: 85RZwade on September 14, 2020, 08:35:58 AM
I'm a fan, you're setting the bar pretty high! Mad welding skills  :thumbs:
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: Jspooner on September 14, 2020, 10:58:55 PM
Looks really good.  :clap:
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: SoCal250 on September 14, 2020, 11:23:55 PM
 :clap: That's some quality work there! Impressive
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: OnlyCrimnson on September 30, 2020, 09:10:45 PM
Impressive, it looks great.
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: mnein on October 01, 2020, 07:38:22 AM
Absolutely righteous.
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on October 01, 2020, 09:53:16 AM
Thanks guys.  I'm still trying to sort out the speedo problem.  I originally thought it was a voltage problem as I was only seeing around 10 volts at idle without a battery.  I got a battery hooked up and apparently that isn't the issue.  I need to get speedhut involved and see what they say.

I didn't get to far with the gas cap either, it was suggested it might be a baffle issue with gas sloshing around.  I didn't put them back in when I had the tank apart, I didn't think I would really need it on a street bike.  I'm going to try and fill the tank up with fuel cell foam and see how it goes
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: rodneya on October 01, 2020, 10:01:49 AM
My tank has an internal baffle and still leaks a bit when it is really full. The old Norton commando sytle cap leaked and I thought it was the flange on the tank that was dinged and dented so I switched to a monza style cap. Internals are almost exactly the same, and it still leaks a bit. Only thing I can figure is that there is a breather hole on the middle of the cap seal and fuel can go up through the breather and get on top of the seal
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: JB Weld on December 02, 2020, 07:40:45 AM
This is amazing. Very impressed with your work!  :drool:
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on December 02, 2020, 01:01:32 PM
Thanks.  An update on the speedo.  I did get it working correctly, I was using non-resistor spark plugs and it wasn't happy with noise.  Changed them out to R plugs and all is good.

Paint is on the agenda for the winter time but I lost my spot indoors where I could paint and had a compressor so it either is find a shop to paint it or get a compressor and wait until some warmer weather and try and do it outside.
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: Djg8493 on December 02, 2020, 03:34:31 PM
I've been tempted to try one of these type set ups for paint in the basement or shed.  Would need run the heater in shed for while first but at least it would keep the dust out.  Anyone else tried one?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/HomeRight-Spray-Shelter-7-27-lb-8-ft-x-6-ft-Drop-Cloth/1000748364?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-pnt-_-google-_-pla-_-106-_-sospaintsprayers-_-1000748364-_-0&placeholder=null&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIru-o8JCw7QIVx_rICh1segrSEAQYBCABEgKLPfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds (https://www.lowes.com/pd/HomeRight-Spray-Shelter-7-27-lb-8-ft-x-6-ft-Drop-Cloth/1000748364?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-pnt-_-google-_-pla-_-106-_-sospaintsprayers-_-1000748364-_-0&placeholder=null&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIru-o8JCw7QIVx_rICh1segrSEAQYBCABEgKLPfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)
Title: Re: 1973 Rd350
Post by: oxford on December 02, 2020, 06:21:26 PM
I could plastic off a section in my garage to setup a makeshift paint booth if I really wanted so that is an option.

For anyone on here that actually does painting and wants to trade their labor for some machining or welding/fab labor hit me up.