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Title: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: Aloha808 on September 29, 2023, 01:30:45 PM
Any recommendations on a good Hi temp RTV silicone instant gasket?

I will be using it in place of the stock head gasket for my rz350.

Thanks
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: pdxjim on September 29, 2023, 01:49:23 PM
Permatex orange sealed great on my O-ring LC head.
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: IR8D8R on September 29, 2023, 03:17:54 PM
Any of the Permatex Ultra series. They are not cured with acetic acid (a reaction with water), so they don't stink like vinegar. The Ultra Grey one doesn't look so bad against aluminum as the blue or orange. They are some kind of modified silicone with a little more resilience than plain RTV. They also adhere better and won't separate from the surfaces with oil.

IR8D8R
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: m in sc on September 29, 2023, 03:53:22 PM
permatex motoseal. (imho).

id consider at least a small copper gasket though, theres places that will cut them any thickness you want.  ran them on my lc until i machined the head. https://coppergaskets.us/

Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: Aloha808 on September 29, 2023, 06:14:05 PM
Thanks gentlemen!

Quote from: pdxjim on September 29, 2023, 01:49:23 PMPermatex orange sealed great on my O-ring LC head.
This is a o-ringed head too.  Based on what I have read about your LC, it was the same guy who worked on my rz motor.

Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: pdxjim on September 30, 2023, 11:08:39 AM
Quote from: Aloha808 on September 29, 2023, 06:14:05 PMThanks gentlemen!

Quote from: pdxjim on September 29, 2023, 01:49:23 PMPermatex orange sealed great on my O-ring LC head.
This is a o-ringed head too.  Based on what I have read about your LC, it was the same guy who worked on my rz motor.



Garrett, EE and ChuckQ were all involved.
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: m in sc on September 30, 2023, 11:21:10 AM
ah, o ringed head, didn't know.   :gentleman:
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: pdxjim on September 30, 2023, 11:38:37 AM
Grey MotoSeal would work well too. It's not a high pressure joint, and you're just keeping the water in, so oil resistance isn't a big deal either.
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: 85RZwade on September 30, 2023, 11:51:26 AM
We use Loctite 515 anerobic sealant a lot at my work. Would it be appropriate in this application?
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: Aloha808 on October 01, 2023, 01:13:10 PM
Quote from: m in sc on September 30, 2023, 11:21:10 AMah, o ringed head, didn't know.   :gentleman:
Sorry, my mistake. I didn't provide enough info.

@pdxjim -Garret did the work on the rz motor
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: achemen on October 02, 2023, 03:39:27 AM
Permatex  works great  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: Aloha808 on October 08, 2023, 05:46:59 PM
I picked up Permatex Motoseal gasket maker-grey.

Does anyone have any tips using this?

The directions say to apply a continuous bead of Motoseal to both surfaces.  Then to smooth material with small brush and allow to set 1 minute before assembly.

I'm wondering how thin I should smooth out the Motoseal?  I'm guessing to much is better then not enough.

It is for an rz o-ringed head.

Thanks
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: m in sc on October 08, 2023, 07:47:46 PM
treat it like yamabond 4 it needs very little to work.
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: pdxjim on October 09, 2023, 10:39:01 AM
I dab it on using the tip of the tube, then smear it very thin with a gloved finger.

It's way too viscous to use an acid brush, so a fingertip works well. 
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: m in sc on October 09, 2023, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: pdxjim on October 09, 2023, 10:39:01 AMI dab it on using the tip of the tube, then smear it very thin with a gloved finger.

It's way too viscous to use an acid brush, so a fingertip works well. 

i never had luck with a brush w the yb4, (even though the directions said to) always used a finger as well.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: Aloha808 on October 09, 2023, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: pdxjim on October 09, 2023, 10:39:01 AMI dab it on using the tip of the tube, then smear it very thin with a gloved finger.

It's way too viscous to use an acid brush, so a fingertip works well. 
Thanks.  I was going to use a brush.  Not now.  And I would of put to much.

@ Mark- Thank you for chiming in with your knowledge. I appreciate your advice.

Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: pdxjim on October 09, 2023, 01:17:01 PM
Warm up the tube in the sun or some warm water makes it easier to smear around evenly.
Title: Re: Instant gasket recommendation
Post by: Aloha808 on October 12, 2023, 06:46:00 PM
Got the head on a couple of days ago.

 I used my finger instead of a brush like you guys recommended and it went well.

Thanks again!