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Painting engine covers, previously polished

Started by SoCal250, February 26, 2019, 05:20:24 PM

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SoCal250

A previous owner polished the engine covers on my 400 and I'm wanting to go back to black. Any advice for prepping and getting the paint to adhere well since they are currently very smooth?  Scuff up the surface with sandpaper and clean with acetone? TIA  I'll be using PJ1 satin black
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

m in sc


SoCal250

Quote from: m in sc on February 26, 2019, 05:25:33 PM
glass bead or sand blast , then acetone.

OK. I don't have a blast cabinet, so I'll have to find someone
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

Hardy

A bit of sandpaper should be ok, if you don't have a sand blaster.

Alternatively, why not find someone who would like to swap painted for polished? That would be a win win for both of you.

Jspooner

Quote from: m in sc on February 26, 2019, 05:25:33 PM
glass bead or sand blast , then acetone.

Exactly what I do. Works great. I also bake them at about 200 before installing.
"Just quit brain fucking it and get it done"

Clem

Quote from: SoCal250 on February 26, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
A previous owner polished the engine covers on my 400 and I'm wanting to go back to black. Any advice for prepping and getting the paint to adhere well since they are currently very smooth?  Scuff up the surface with sandpaper and clean with acetone? TIA  I'll be using PJ1 satin black
Que up the AC/DC back in black!

~JM~


SoCal250

Quote from: Clem on February 26, 2019, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: SoCal250 on February 26, 2019, 05:20:24 PM
A previous owner polished the engine covers on my 400 and I'm wanting to go back to black. Any advice for prepping and getting the paint to adhere well since they are currently very smooth?  Scuff up the surface with sandpaper and clean with acetone? TIA  I'll be using PJ1 satin black
Que up the AC/DC back in black!

:dawg: that thought actually crossed my mind as I was typing that
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

Seizer

A self etching primer would work. Works great on mild steel anyway.

2strokesforever

You will need to clean them with acetone, blast with glass bead and then acetone again.

I always heat the aluminum up to 100-150* just before painting, put 2-3 coats on and let it dry for 48 hours before installing.

My paint of choice is VHT gm satin black for engine cases for RDs. But i recently did a Harley engine for a friend and used VHT wrinkle black and it turned out very nice for rattle can paint.

Take your time on the prep and cleanliness is key.

BTW: the VHT is fuel proof, ive spilled fuel/premix on my cases and have never had issues.
1963 YD3
1968 YG5t
1970 Rupp Scrambler
1972 LS2 100
1973 LT2
1975 RD250 x2
1975 RD 125
1975 DT400
1977 RD400 x2
1977 DT/RD
1978 DT400 x2
1980 Exciter 440
1983 CR60
1983 CR80
1991 TZR250R SP
1992 Vmax 750-4

And 1 4 stroke- 2014 Vmax 1700- tuned by Tim Nash


Loneagle

Sandblast, epoxy primer and 2k urethane in satin black. I haven't found a aerosol paint that holds up very well.

SoCal250

Would aluminum oxide work? I found a blast cabinet I can borrow
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

2strokesforever

Quote from: SoCal250 on February 28, 2019, 12:00:38 PM
Would aluminum oxide work? I found a blast cabinet I can borrow

Absolutely,  but it will be very aggressive. Dust, if you will, lightly very the cases and it will remove the shine very fast. Just don't sit in one spot or you will see the removed material after paint is on.
1963 YD3
1968 YG5t
1970 Rupp Scrambler
1972 LS2 100
1973 LT2
1975 RD250 x2
1975 RD 125
1975 DT400
1977 RD400 x2
1977 DT/RD
1978 DT400 x2
1980 Exciter 440
1983 CR60
1983 CR80
1991 TZR250R SP
1992 Vmax 750-4

And 1 4 stroke- 2014 Vmax 1700- tuned by Tim Nash

m in sc

btw, dont prime over bare aluminum. just straight paint, will stick beautifully.