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Title: Which "new" bike?
Post by: pdxjim on July 09, 2022, 04:04:30 PM
Looking forward to selling my LC and buying a modern bike this winter.

Primary use will be out of town hooning.  Fast rural two-lane highways, twisties out to the coast, multi-day sport-touring (heavy on the sport).  Not much on the slab (boring!), not much around town (that's what my TDR's for), and no dirt or DS (got my plated 300 for that).

I've got a short list of bikes I'm considering.  Most will need to be a few years old to stay within a budget of < $8.5k (or whatever I can get for my LC (probably a bit less)).

What would you buy?

(https://assets.roadrunner.travel/img/6858/363485.jpg)
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: Brad-Man on July 09, 2022, 04:09:54 PM
Moto Guzzi V7III...
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: msr on July 09, 2022, 05:02:02 PM
I love the look of the V7s, too. For the purpose you're describing, though, I would look at the Kawi Versys 650 ABS.

I hate I don't have the space or cash to go after your LC.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: pdxjim on July 09, 2022, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: msr on July 09, 2022, 05:02:02 PM
I love the look of the V7s, too. For the purpose you're describing, though, I would look at the Kawi Versys 650 ABS.

I hate I don't have the space or cash to go after your LC.

V7 is too retro and too slow.

Versys looks pretty good, and similar to the FJ09, which is on my list.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: m in sc on July 09, 2022, 06:14:44 PM
tracer 900?
fit some aggressive tires and have at it.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: BlueR32 on July 09, 2022, 06:23:51 PM
Yamaha Tracer 9 or 900. Hands down that triple motor is way more rowdy and fun than the Versys 650 twin.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: m in sc on July 09, 2022, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: msr on July 09, 2022, 05:02:02 PM
I hate I don't have the space or cash to go after your LC.

If you sell the orange cat, you will get both instantly. especially pricing by the pound.  :dawg: :whistle:
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: msr on July 09, 2022, 07:42:49 PM
Tracer 9 is a good bike. I considered one recently, too, but it kind of didn't fit me. They're north of $14k now, too.

Quote from: m in sc on July 09, 2022, 06:58:42 PM
If you sell the orange cat, you will get both instantly. especially pricing by the pound.  :dawg: :whistle:

I think he's lighter than Simon at this point 😂
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: pdxjim on July 09, 2022, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: m in sc on July 09, 2022, 06:14:44 PM
tracer 900?
fit some aggressive tires and have at it.

There's a good one on FBM local to me.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/565440168624201/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A078dbe2e-fc13-4a3c-acf0-df687c892553

I def prefer the MT/FZ09 though.  790/890 DukeR is on my list too, but the MT09 is currently at the top, as I've a few friends suffering from KTM "reliability issues" with their 890 DukeRs.

(https://bikereview.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/BikeReview-2021-Yamaha-MT-09-Road-Test-39.jpg)

690SMCR also, but 95mph cruising speed is a little slow for Eastern Oregon.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: m in sc on July 09, 2022, 09:47:46 PM
def ride a tracer. the power delivery is very very good but different. 

Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: pdxjim on July 09, 2022, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: m in sc on July 09, 2022, 09:47:46 PM
def ride a tracer. the power delivery is very very good but different.

Tracer and MT09 have the same engine/trans/chassis.  Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: ajb on July 10, 2022, 07:59:49 AM
I would look at at Street or Speed Triple, depending on what fits best.

Or the Speed Twin 1200 is great fun too.  Also the MT10. 

I have ridden the MT09 and a later Tracer 900. Nice bikes, but the suspension does let them down somewhat.  No problem if you are going to mod them.  The Triumphs are perfectly setup for me at least, out of the box with lovely suspension and brakes. 

MT10 has a monster motor, lousy brakes though if you push on.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: Striker1423 on July 10, 2022, 08:38:49 AM
My brother bought a Triumph Speed Triple and its a sweet little bike. Not the most comfortable, but cool nonetheless.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: m in sc on July 10, 2022, 10:23:45 AM
Quote from: pdxjim on July 09, 2022, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: m in sc on July 09, 2022, 09:47:46 PM
def ride a tracer. the power delivery is very very good but different.

Tracer and MT09 have the same engine/trans/chassis.  Or am I missing something?

different tunes and power delivery. so, yeah. its hands down the best recent 'swiss army knife' bike i've ridden.  Before that, was a street triple 675R.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: Seizer on July 10, 2022, 11:01:55 AM
Check out a Tuono. They're stupid fun.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: pdxjim on July 10, 2022, 12:37:01 PM
I had a 675 Daytona for a few years, and the triple power delivery is on of reasons I'm leaning toward the Yamaha triples as well

FJ is a little too big and fairing-y for my taste, but I know there are times I would really appreciate it.

MT10 and Tuono are likely out of budget.

I would be budgeting for a new shock and fork Revalve on the MT for sure.

Local yam dealer is doing demo rides today, so ima try to motivate over there in a bit.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: ajb on July 10, 2022, 12:41:10 PM
Quote from: Seizer on July 10, 2022, 11:01:55 AM
Check out a Tuono. They're stupid fun.

Oh yeah, forgot about those.  Both the V2 and V4s are superb fun.  The V2 is quite reasonably priced.

Not sure what the parts availability is like in your area though, worth checking.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: Clem710 on July 10, 2022, 01:09:21 PM
Lots of good suggestions above, modernish triples def have their own good feel to them. I'll throw into the hat an old cheap ass ZX-6 or the always popular Vstrom, not sure if u can put SV suspension on an Strom but if so, thats well developed.  Pretty sure ppl were racing those FZ07s as well but havent been on the scene in a while.

I realize you mentioned "modern" but considering some older stuff, old Connies go real cheap here and go well and my ST1300 hauls the mail but are both pretty big, heavy and old at this point.  Hard bags FTW though, if you've never had em, well, you dont understand:)  Lots of vintage gold wings seem to be going for little money if want to go full size, younger guys have been bringing them around and they really are good bikes, def more touring tho.

Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: Nkreig on July 10, 2022, 06:56:48 PM
XSR900 inline 3.  Should sound sweet with that 3, looks dope and #425 for a 900 should be flickable in the turns and smooth on the highway. A bit above your budget you listed tho.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: pdxjim on July 10, 2022, 07:19:17 PM
Quote from: Nkreig on July 10, 2022, 06:56:48 PM
XSR900 inline 3.  Should sound sweet with that 3, looks dope and #425 for a 900 should be flickable in the turns and smooth on the highway. A bit above your budget you listed tho.

Yup. They claim 414# and 117hp/69tq for the MT09.  Those are pretty rowdy numbers, and almost every review I've read mentions "wheelies".
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: dugsgms on July 10, 2022, 09:08:04 PM
May not be your cup of tea but I picked up a 20 Triumph Speed Twin a few months ago and am really enjoying it. A ton of torque, great handling, nice brakes and a seat/ergos good enough for all day rides. Really a great balance between sport and comfort with great styling to boot. Geared a bit low for long freeway rides but a absolute riot on twisty 2 lanes. I paid 9k for mine with 2500 miles on it, not the easiest bike to find used but they are out there.
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: m in sc on July 11, 2022, 01:13:57 PM

Quote from: Nkreig on July 10, 2022, 06:56:48 PM
XSR900 inline 3.  Should sound sweet with that 3, looks dope and #425 for a 900 should be flickable in the turns and smooth on the highway. A bit above your budget you listed tho.



having have ridden both an xsr and a tracer, i can tell you the tracer is better in almost every way to live with. better power delivery, def more comfortable, etc. However, the xsr is a snotty hooligan bike that you -could- do longer rides on but .. well. and yes, they wheelie very, very easily. 
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: pdxjim on July 11, 2022, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: m in sc on July 11, 2022, 01:13:57 PM

Quote from: Nkreig on July 10, 2022, 06:56:48 PM
XSR900 inline 3.  Should sound sweet with that 3, looks dope and #425 for a 900 should be flickable in the turns and smooth on the highway. A bit above your budget you listed tho.



having have ridden both an xsr and a tracer, i can tell you the tracer is better in almost every way to live with. better power delivery, def more comfortable, etc. However, the xsr is a snotty hooligan bike that you -could- do longer rides on but .. well. and yes, they wheelie very, very easily.

XSR styling, especially the Daytona Special livery, is great, with the exception of that taillight.  XSR taillight looks like something  off my 75 RD350B I would have binned 30 years ago. 2016 speedblocks are ok too, but kinda played out in my mind.

Just popped a positive C19 test, so I skipped the demo rides yesterday.  :bacon: :bacon: :bacon:

Gotta focus on capital acquisition before I worry about how to spend it anyway.

EDIT:
Actually, the taillight on the 21-22 models liiks WAY better, and just like what I would've replaced the the RD350B taillight with.  Also, the blue/yellow livery is sweet, and looks a lot like the 1989 RZ350F2

(https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/wp-images/186876/951x634/2022-yamaha-xsr900-05.jpg)

(https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/wp-images/186876/951x634/2022-yamaha-xsr900-01.jpg)

(https://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/20210524-1989-yamaha-rz350-left-768x474.jpg)
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: busa1300 on July 13, 2022, 07:20:07 PM
If you like Yamaha, maybe you could dig up one of these....

(https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2001-Yamaha-XJR1300SPa.jpg?d=1&i=1)
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: 85RZwade on July 14, 2022, 11:39:43 PM
I'm not seeing any bad choices here...I don't envy your decision, even if they are diesels.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: rodneya on July 15, 2022, 09:56:40 AM
Im not really a huge fan of electric bikes, but the Damon looks like it could be major fun with 200hp

https://damon.com/hypersport (https://damon.com/hypersport)
Title: Re: Which "new" bike?
Post by: Djg8493 on July 18, 2022, 04:00:35 PM
All seem like great options.  I will say, I have had fun on the HyperStrada that I picked up last year for similar reasons.