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1989 Yamaha TZR250 - Iconic Motorbikes Auctions

Started by Yamanatic, December 04, 2023, 10:19:23 AM

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Yamanatic

Of Course It's Gonna Make Some Noise - There's GAS Exploding In There!

SoCal250

Nice bike, but I think it's already way over bid. Although it's low miles, it shows some corrosion and condition issues. And there may be an error in the listing regarding the issuing state of the title. It may not have a CA title.
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

Yamanatic

Quote from: SoCal250 on December 04, 2023, 01:22:27 PMNice bike, but I think it's already way over bid.

I have said that myself too many times over the years - often an 'overbid' bike becomes a bellwether of things to come, and the prices are the new base for future sales. As supplies dry up, demand drives the price.

Anecdotally, about 20 years ago I paid way too much (at least that is what everyone told me) for a Yamaha TZ750. When I picked the bike up, the seller who was in his 70's had a whole row of TZ750's, TZ500's, vintage Kawasaki KR triples,  and basically a million-dollar collection. When I asked if he was a retired racer, he said he didn't ride and was just a fan; back in the 1980's when the  values of the '70's 2-stroke race bikes was in the toilet, he scarfed up as many of them as he could afford, and stuck them all in storage to sit on for many years; he was now living very comfortably off the profits selling the now valuable machinery for 10 times or more than what he paid; it was his 401K on wheels!

What he said made perfect sense, so I did the same with the TZ I bought from him, and now that I'm 70 myself, I am selling it to subsidize my retirement income. The "too much" I paid then was a smokin' deal compared to what it's worth today, and it is time to cash in ... it sells in January 2024:

1974 Yamaha TZ750A

Warren


 
Of Course It's Gonna Make Some Noise - There's GAS Exploding In There!

SoCal250

#3
I think part of the reason it's overbid is because bidders may be under the impression it has a Calif title, which it doesn't seem to. There is an error in the listing. I have tried to point this out on the Iconic site but my comment from 2 days ago never appeared and is in "pending" limbo status.
I think the winning bidder might get a big surprise if they're expecting to register it in CA.
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

pdxjim

Might be almost worth it for a 2XT, but no way for a plain ol' 1KT/2MA
Wasting time on 2T forums since the dawn of the internet. '89 TDR250, '13 300xcw, '19 690smcr, '56 Porsche 356A

busa1300

Quote from: pdxjim on December 06, 2023, 04:00:18 PMMight be almost worth it for a 2XT, but no way for a plain ol' 1KT/2MA
It is a reverse cylinder 3MA...
But still way too much when looking beyond the new paint.
RZ350-RZV500R-TZR250RSP 3XV2
RGV250 VJ21 SP/VJ22 SP/VJ23 SP
RS250 for track - KD80 - JR50 for kids
https://youtube.com/@wedgehorsepower9869?feature=shared

dgorms

rz,r5,ds7,srx,fzr400rr,vfr,cl77,s90, F-7,CL 77, CA-77,ad infinitum

pdxjim

#7
Quote from: busa1300 on December 06, 2023, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: pdxjim on December 06, 2023, 04:00:18 PMMight be almost worth it for a 2XT, but no way for a plain ol' 1KT/2MA
It is a reverse cylinder 3MA...
But still way too much when looking beyond the new paint.

Whoops! You're right.  Def not worth it for a scruffy 3MA.
Wasting time on 2T forums since the dawn of the internet. '89 TDR250, '13 300xcw, '19 690smcr, '56 Porsche 356A

rodneya

Quote from: SoCal250 on December 06, 2023, 12:27:49 PMI think part of the reason it's overbid is because bidders may be under the impression it has a Calif title, which it doesn't seem to. There is an error in the listing. I have tried to point this out on the Iconic site but my comment from 2 days ago never appeared and is in "pending" limbo status.
I think the winning bidder might get a big surprise if they're expecting to register it in CA.

Ad corrected to Oregon title. So if purchased could you not transfer the title to California if you live there?

SoCal250

Quote from: rodneya on December 06, 2023, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: SoCal250 on December 06, 2023, 12:27:49 PMI think part of the reason it's overbid is because bidders may be under the impression it has a Calif title, which it doesn't seem to. There is an error in the listing. I have tried to point this out on the Iconic site but my comment from 2 days ago never appeared and is in "pending" limbo status.
I think the winning bidder might get a big surprise if they're expecting to register it in CA.

Ad corrected to Oregon title. So if purchased could you not transfer the title to California if you live there?

Nope, impossible to register here.
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

pdxjim

Wasting time on 2T forums since the dawn of the internet. '89 TDR250, '13 300xcw, '19 690smcr, '56 Porsche 356A

SoCal250

75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

Yamanatic

Been studying prices - domestically overpriced (it seems way over), but maybe not so much Internationally - only thing a title is good for is ease of export documentation.

Looking at the bids, at least 3 people think it's worth $15K+, and no retractions (yet) over the Title update.

This bike definitely has a generous coating of lipstick, but probably actual miles; are those the original tires? . Nearest recent sale I could find was a 1994 Yamaha TZR250SPR that sold for $17K.

Warren
Of Course It's Gonna Make Some Noise - There's GAS Exploding In There!

busa1300

Quote from: Yamanatic on December 07, 2023, 10:23:46 AMThis bike definitely has a generous coating of lipstick, but probably actual miles; are those the original tires? . Nearest recent sale I could find was a 1994 Yamaha TZR250SPR that sold for $17K.

Warren

The SPR was introduced in 95 and was light years ahead of the reverse cylinder 3MA in almost every way. They are considered the TZR to have, as they were the very last of the Yamaha two strokes. Very similar to the 3XV SP versions from 91-94, except it did not have the close ratio trans. Definitely worth more than a standard 3MA.
RZ350-RZV500R-TZR250RSP 3XV2
RGV250 VJ21 SP/VJ22 SP/VJ23 SP
RS250 for track - KD80 - JR50 for kids
https://youtube.com/@wedgehorsepower9869?feature=shared

SoCal250

Like Randy said, the 3MA1 and 3XVC are completely different bikes and in different price categories.
I think that auction went way over what it's worth. But I guess someone had to have it. I'll bet the seller is happy!
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)