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Painting engine covers, previously polished

Started by SoCal250, February 26, 2019, 05:20:24 PM

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Kawtriplefreak

Glass beading would work better than aluminium oxide as stated. If you aren't in a hurry I will gladly do them for you at a reasonable price.

SoCal250

Quote from: Kawtriplefreak on February 28, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Glass beading would work better than aluminium oxide as stated. If you aren't in a hurry I will gladly do them for you at a reasonable price.

Thanks for the offer! I can get them done semi-locally. The cabinet I will be using may be changed over to glass bead in the next few weeks (if I'm lucky). If not, I'll just deal with the alum oxide and be careful with it.
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

SoCal250

Quote from: Jspooner on February 26, 2019, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: m in sc on February 26, 2019, 05:25:33 PM
glass bead or sand blast , then acetone.

Exactly what I do. Works great. I also bake them at about 200 before installing.

Thanks Joe & Mark, This is my plan. I'll glass bead if the cabinet has been changed over when I use it, otherwise I'll just use aluminum oxide, then clean with acetone, and then bake after paint.

Quote from: m in sc on February 28, 2019, 02:10:47 PM
btw, dont prime over bare aluminum. just straight paint, will stick beautifully. 

Got it. Will do! Thanks
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

SoCal250

Quote from: Clem on February 26, 2019, 07:31:39 PM
Que up the AC/DC back in black!

Quote from: Hawaii-Mike on February 27, 2019, 11:48:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuQQgN4psb8&list=RDOuQQgN4psb8&start_radio=1

This is pretty ironic. I am setting up my turntable again so I brought home a few old LPs from my storage today. Guess what record was in the bin I brought home?!  :metal:
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

Jspooner

Quote from: SoCal250 on February 28, 2019, 12:00:38 PM
Would aluminum oxide work? I found a blast cabinet I can borrow

I've done it, the paint actually sticks better, it's a bit more work to make it look decent though.
"Just quit brain fucking it and get it done"

Jspooner

Quote from: 2strokesforever on February 26, 2019, 09:55:09 PM

I always heat the aluminum up to 100-150* just before painting,


I would not do this, IMO the paint dries too fast as it is going on and does not flow properly as you apply it. I paint them at room temp, let them dry to the touch or even longer and then bake them at about 200 to cure the paint.
"Just quit brain fucking it and get it done"

teazer

I warm them at this time of year in front of the shop heater, so they are 60-70 degrees and the paint can has to be a similar temp.  Then I leave them to flash off/cure/degas for 24 hours before I stick them in the oven at 200 for an hour to properly harden the paint.


2strokesforever

Quote from: Jspooner on March 01, 2019, 01:49:26 AM
Quote from: 2strokesforever on February 26, 2019, 09:55:09 PM

I always heat the aluminum up to 100-150* just before painting,


I would not do this, IMO the paint dries too fast as it is going on and does not flow properly as you apply it. I paint them at room temp, let them dry to the touch or even longer and then bake them at about 200 to cure the paint.

You have a point. You must be more consistant when applying the paint.

Either works.
But I find metal, especially aluminum  holds so much moisture that it can negatively effect the durability of the paint/ product applied.
1963 YD3
1968 YG5t
1970 Rupp Scrambler
1972 LS2 100
1973 LT2
1975 RD250 x2
1975 RD 125
1975 DT400
1977 RD400 x2
1977 DT/RD
1978 DT400 x2
1980 Exciter 440
1983 CR60
1983 CR80
1991 TZR250R SP
1992 Vmax 750-4

And 1 4 stroke- 2014 Vmax 1700- tuned by Tim Nash

Clem

Quote from: SoCal250 on February 28, 2019, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Clem on February 26, 2019, 07:31:39 PM
Que up the AC/DC back in black!

Quote from: Hawaii-Mike on February 27, 2019, 11:48:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuQQgN4psb8&list=RDOuQQgN4psb8&start_radio=1

This is pretty ironic. I am setting up my turntable again so I brought home a few old LPs from my storage today. Guess what record was in the bin I brought home?!  :metal:

That's funny stuff. My second thought after that song popped into my head was McGrath coming out to Back in Black during the late 90's supercross intro's.

SoCal250

Success! Degreased, cleaned with acetone, then media blasted. Now just need to clean them up and find time to apply paint.

(forgot to shoot "before" photos)   :(
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

paul1478

whenever I see polished cases I remember being 16 in my neighbor garage and he was polishing the cases on his root beer colored R5. It was the coolest ever at the time.
I now prefer the black, but on the 350 I do like the polished stripe they come with (I think)
76 Team Scream RD400
1993 FJ1200
2006 Goldwing
2022 Ducati V2 Panigale

Robert58

Rough it up a bit with medium sand paper , then etching primer , then I used VHT engine paint
Rust-Oleum® Self Etching Primer is designed to prepare bare metal, aluminum and fiberglass surfaces to promote maximum adhesion and smoothness of the topcoat finish. Self Etching Primer is a rust preventive coating that etches and primes in one coat.

Czakky

How does the "PJ1 Fast Black" hold up to fuel?

SUPERTUNE

Very good, but needs aging or a oven bake.
Jspooner has a bake procedure.
I forgot it...
C
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Jspooner

#29
Quote from: SUPERTUNE on December 08, 2019, 11:25:02 AM
Very good, but needs aging or a oven bake.
Jspooner has a bake procedure.
I forgot it...
C

Clean all of the grease and oil off and then bead blast the surfaces you are painting. If you are going to polish the highlighted areas make sure you mask them before blasting. Once blasted pull the masking tape off and clean it all real well again. Re-mask the highlighted areas if you are going to polish them. Once you are done with all of that you are ready to paint. Apply a generous coat and then bake it at about 200 for a half hour to an hour. Once it's cooled down lightly sand it with 600 to remove imperfections, dirt, etc., then clean it, then apply another coat, then bake it again, then sand it again. Your third coat should be your final coat and that needs to be baked as well. If you aren't happy with the finished result sand it and give it a fourth coat. I use PJ1 satin black when doing this and have always had good luck doing it this way. It resists fuel spills, etc. but I wouldn't let it sit in gas too long because I doing how it will react. I have done it with the gloss black as well on other parts.
"Just quit brain fucking it and get it done"