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Zeel ignition on my 48H….RZ350

Started by busa1300, August 10, 2022, 05:43:26 PM

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Economy Cycle John

I think Ed is supplying both sides of the connector and is an ignitech unit. These are the OEM connectors for the 84 RZ350 (and different from 1985), I don't see them plugging in to the connectors shown in Ed's picture (they look like standard spade connector blocks. The OEM ones use those big fat pins, not a lot avaiable for them.

I didn't realize the connectors were so important, I'll make some up for the Zeels for each year. My thinking was with just the pigtails, guys could wire it up anyway they want, connectors, bullets, solder, etc.

As for the static timing (Zeel calls it "static angle"), always check it, it should be 34 degrees for all RZ's.

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busa1300

Quote from: Economy Cycle on August 22, 2022, 02:22:31 PM
I think Ed is supplying both sides of the connector and is an ignitech unit. These are the OEM connectors for the 84 RZ350 (and different from 1985), I don't see them plugging in to the connectors shown in Ed's picture (they look like standard spade connector blocks. The OEM ones use those big fat pins, not a lot avaiable for them.

I didn't realize the connectors were so important, I'll make some up for the Zeels for each year. My thinking was with just the pigtails, guys could wire it up anyway they want, connectors, bullets, solder, etc.

As for the static timing (Zeel calls it "static angle"), always check it, it should be 34 degrees for all RZ's.



I can't see the image...?

Make up some ends, as in 3D print?.... or do you have a supply source?


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rodneya

Could you not use the plastic connectors from the old CDI with new crimp on spade bits?

busa1300

I found the spade connectors, and have those mounted on the Zeel.
Also have the 4 prong connector with the bullet terminals mounted on the Zeel.
I could not find the 2 and 3 prong connectors with bullet terminals.
Can't find the original style bullet terminals to use the original plastic connectors...
So I used new style bullets and plugged them in to where they needed without the plastic mounting connector.
Works good for the moment.
But need to find the right bits for it.
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rodneya

Did you check with Vintage Connections. I though I read that he has bullet terminals that work with OEM Japanese plastic connectors

teazer

And also check easternbeaver.com in Japan. I often have to buy connectors there because I can't find what I need locally.   

busa1300

 :thumbs:

I have check both those sites out a few times, but I could not find the original style bullet to work with the original connectors from the old ignition. So far the bullets I put on the Zeel wiring are working... but... I'm pretty picky about how I want my stuff.

Anyway, also wired in a quick shift since the Zeel has a wire for one.

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busa1300

Modified the new style bullets to work with my old plugs...
Ran up and down the road and all works as advertised.
Although pull shifter is not as smooth as the push version I have on my RGV.

RZ350-RZV500R-TZR250RSP 3XV2
RGV250 VJ21 SP/VJ22 SP/VJ23 SP
RS250 for track - KD80 - JR50 for kids
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