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Title: Oh Dear!!
Post by: elliottles1 on July 11, 2022, 02:35:42 PM
folks,

hoping someone may have some ideas.
out riding my lovely tzr125 when, one by one, components started burning out.
first the koso digital speedo/rev counter, then the digital temp. gauge. (separate component). then the power valve controller.
the bike still runs, so got home, but anything wired to the battery burned. i have tested them separately with a power supply and they are dead. does anyone think that the regulator/rectifier faulted and overcharged? the battery after all this only read 10.5 volts and now wont hold charge, so i may have cooked that.

any ideas anyone (please!)
cheers
les.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: m in sc on July 11, 2022, 02:42:45 PM
oh that sucks.

i would def look at the reg/rectifier

Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: Striker1423 on July 11, 2022, 03:30:35 PM
Symptoms of overcharging are one by one dead components. Especially CDI's on old Chrysler outboards. Nothing like floating down the river hoping not to get run over by a freighter, or floating to Canada unannounced lol.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: 1976RD400C on July 11, 2022, 07:14:19 PM
I wonder what would happen with a lithium battery in that situation. Fire in the hole?
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: bitzz on July 11, 2022, 07:42:29 PM
Does the bike run?
Check the AC voltage across the battery when the bike is running. If you have more than a volt or two, that's your problem.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: elliottles1 on July 12, 2022, 03:05:39 AM
hi

thanks folks, i now have a plan forwards

les.

Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: elliottles1 on July 12, 2022, 12:32:25 PM
folks,

mailed my power valve controller off to this guy today, he has a great reputation, and also modifies the controller to be programmable with various settings, worth checking maybe if anyone has a power valve bike. i was half considering using his services a while ago, and am now convinced that i need them!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275346366915?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

cheers
les.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: elliottles1 on August 14, 2022, 12:00:14 PM
Guys,

i have replaced the burned components including a refurbed ypvs controller. also replaced are the battery with a new one and the regulator/rectifier.
however, when running i get 14.7 at tickover across the battery, dropping to 14.2 when revved, what goes???

the only difference from standard yamaha is the battery which is 3.5amp AGM instead of 5amp lead/acid. could it be that?

thanks for any help/advice.
cheers
les.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: Striker1423 on August 15, 2022, 07:23:53 PM
14.2 is charging... so, I'd run it.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: elliottles1 on August 16, 2022, 07:50:10 AM


yup, i will do, but what would cause the voltage to DROP  when revving the bike??

les
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: m in sc on August 16, 2022, 10:19:48 AM
the voltage cutout working more efficiently.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: elliottles1 on August 17, 2022, 03:08:38 AM

thanks folks,
good to go then so.
les.

Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: teazer on August 17, 2022, 01:09:33 PM
Not that there is anything in common with your bike but our FZR400 does basically the same thing. It seems to charge like a wounded steer at tickover and as revs rise the R/R cuts it off at a steady 13.5 or so volts.
Title: Re: Oh Dear!!
Post by: elliottles1 on August 17, 2022, 05:28:01 PM
teazer,

yep, i always thought it should be the other way round. i was a bit concerned because of the blown components with the previous reg/rect. that just cost me a couple o hundred or so. didnt want to blow them again.

cheers
les.