I believe Fondseca was producing these but dont think they do so now.any place else to get these......thanks.
Check Metmechex swingarms in England.
@mavguy
They were manufactured by a german guy, even with the kickstarter hole.
I am in the process of getting one made. I know the guy who do them very well. He does the long shaft for useing the RD400 gears also(which I already have). If you want I can provide you with his contact details.
Regards Uwe
I just installed one that I bought from fondseca. There's a few pics in the show off section in my magazine shoot thread. Pics are at the end.
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So Dxrat, what's the dry clutch like? I've ridden a couple of Ducatis with dry clutches, but never had the opportunity for a back to back comparison on the same machine.
Well that's just plain sexy..
Quote from: 85RZwade on August 22, 2020, 10:22:34 AM
So Dxrat, what's the dry clutch like? I've ridden a couple of Ducatis with dry clutches, but never had the opportunity for a back to back comparison on the same machine.
I'll be able to tell you in a couple days hopefully. This has been a nightmare to get going actually. The last issue was my center hub wasn't true so I ordered another one from England. I finally have all the parts to reassemble it but need the time.
Hey Dave,
I would like to start collecting bits to try this myself. Any chance you could start a thread or list what parts are needed and where to source?
Thanks man!
Quote from: Seizer on August 23, 2020, 12:02:05 AM
Hey Dave,
I would like to start collecting bits to try this myself. Any chance you could start a thread or list what parts are needed and where to source?
Thanks man!
You know what, I contacted Vince at Fondseca and said make me a kit with everything I need. I took the easy way out for once.
That's the way to do it.
Quote from: Dxrat on August 23, 2020, 12:19:04 AM
You know what, I contacted Vince at Fondseca and said make me a kit with everything I need. I took the easy way out for once.
Any rough cost estimate? I guess it was a TZ cover and afternarket clutch?
Quote from: Dvsrd on August 23, 2020, 05:47:16 AM
Quote from: Dxrat on August 23, 2020, 12:19:04 AM
You know what, I contacted Vince at Fondseca and said make me a kit with everything I need. I took the easy way out for once.
Any rough cost estimate? I guess it was a TZ cover and afternarket clutch?
i so need to do this to the lc hybrid & truly finish my poor mans tz project. :toot: Id be interested in $ as well. last time i think i looked was in the 1500-1800 range for everything? ish?
Quote from: m in sc on August 24, 2020, 03:37:53 PM
i so need to do this to the lc hybrid & truly finish my poor mans tz project. :toot: Id be interested in $ as well. last time i think i looked was in the 1500-1800 range for everything? ish?
:ups:
of course, that would almost guarantee a RH side drop on the test ride. :taz:
That's a decent size billet just to get started. Probably $150 just in raw material.
The one I used is cast, somewhat like the original. I'm sure you could scrounge around and get it done for the 1500-1800 range. I bought an expensive billet basket and inner hub so I blew by that estimate. Probably $2500 ish in mine.
How do I post video's on this site?
youtube embedding link easiest way, or the vimeo one.
last time i looked was like 6-7 yrs ago.
A short video while it still had the bad center hub. Hopefully I'll get it back together this week.
[vimeo] https://vimeo.com/451297655?ref=em-share[/vimeo]
Pretty fuckin sick!
That dry clutch looks really sexy. Every so often I think about modifying a spare TZ primary cover to take a kickstarter and then I remember that I would need a longer clutch shaft plus a set of straight cut gears and a complete TZ clutch and the only ones I have are for the TZ. It seemed like such a neat idea until I started to think about the cost.
So I will fit a Banshee lockup clutch with straight cut primary gears and a Banshee side cover instead. Of course that also needed a modified Banshee kick starter shaft, but that was cheap enough.
Quote from: teazer on September 02, 2020, 11:49:44 PM
That dry clutch looks really sexy. Every so often I think about modifying a spare TZ primary cover to take a kickstarter and then I remember that I would need a longer clutch shaft plus a set of straight cut gears and a complete TZ clutch and the only ones I have are for the TZ. It seemed like such a neat idea until I started to think about the cost.
So I will fit a Banshee lockup clutch with straight cut primary gears and a Banshee side cover instead. Of course that also needed a modified Banshee kick starter shaft, but that was cheap enough.
Not a cheap endeavor that's for sure. The noise isn't for everyone either. It's not just the clutch rattle, those straight cut gears are noisy as hell. 😂
i always loved the idea of a dry clutch, it looks great
but i would like to have the oil pump enclosed/covered
Quote from: toffee on September 04, 2020, 05:22:41 PM
i always loved the idea of a dry clutch, it looks great
but i would like to have the oil pump enclosed/covered
I have some ideas but none of the available side covers offer a pump cover. I don't think any have provisions for the oil pump at all. It took a bit of work to get this one going.
hmm, maybe an RZ type cover?
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Fondseca is no longer selling the kit. I really want one. I emailed Nova Transmissions in England and they can make the input shaft but that's about it. Anyone know where I can still get one???
Quote from: RayL on December 03, 2023, 04:09:28 PMFondseca is no longer selling the kit. I really want one. I emailed Nova Transmissions in England and they can make the input shaft but that's about it. Anyone know where I can still get one???
@RayL I wrote in 2020 in this thread that a german guy do the long shaft and the clutch sidecover with kickstarter hole. This guy, a racing friend of mine, did made the parts for Fondseca. I got the 2 shafts and a cover from his last batch. He got a victim of the big flood here in Germany in 2021 and lost his complete workshop. He did a lot of replica parts, mainly for TZs. That is one of the reasons Fondseca don't sell them anymore. He just started to get things sorted to do a bit of work again but sadly life was not good to him. He passed away this morning after a long battle with COPD. RIP Bernd :'(
Regards Uwe
Oh man, Im sorry to hear. :confusing2:
Georgios Sotirchos in Greece makes them. Search for him on Facebook. He is very responsive with messenger and was a pleasure to deal with. I recently bought two of them but have not installed them yet. One for my RZV and one for my LC350. RZV was about $2,000 and you need to send him your side cover to modify. LC350 was about $1,800 and he provides a modified side cover. I'll try to take some pics later this evening.
Quote from: Acme Moto on December 04, 2023, 10:30:21 AMGeorgios Sotirchos in Greece makes them. Search for him on Facebook. He is very responsive with messenger and was a pleasure to deal with. I recently bought two of them but have not installed them yet. One for my RZV and one for my LC350. RZV was about $2,000 and you need to send him your side cover to modify. LC350 was about $1,800 and he provides a modified side cover. I'll try to take some pics later this evening.
@Acme Moto
I have seen that Georgios Sotirchos does them for the RZV500, RZ350(a friend has one) and LC but I have not seen or read that he makes the dry clutch kits for the aircooled RDs.
Regards Uwe
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Damn....that's almost enough reason to look for a RD350/400 project :whoop:
Dry clutch addict for years...
Does he have a web site, or some kind of link?
Very interested in one for my RZ
I'm not a Facebook person...