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Title: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: forexer on January 18, 2021, 04:07:34 PM
I bought this Yamaha RD350 and it has exhaust chambers on it so the center stand has been removed. I was wondering what you guys do to lift a bike up safely so you can work on it with the front and rear wheel being off the ground. I checked out some youtube videos however most of those videos show you how to lift it up in a pinch to change a tire and the other ideas shown in the videos looked rather unsafe. So therefore I thought I'd ask the  group.

Thanks
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: m in sc on January 18, 2021, 04:45:48 PM
beam and ratchet straps if possible. 

however, i just pulled the wheel off the r5, has stock pegs with chambers. i put a jackstand under the RH peg loop and the side-stand, brought the ft wheel right off the ground.  as far as the rear, i used a long 3/8 peice of steel bar, used 2 jack stands (one each side) to do rear wheel. thru the old center stand holes.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: forexer on January 18, 2021, 05:09:49 PM
as far as the rear, i used a long 3/8 peice of steel bar, used 2 jack stands (one each side) to do rear wheel. thru the old center stand holes.

PERFECT - I'm glad I asked  :clap:
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: pidjones on January 18, 2021, 05:11:18 PM
I have a pit stand from Harbor Freight that I use to left the back of a GL1000 (over 600 lbs) that has the center stand removed. A similar stand can be built to lift the front. Also, both front and rear stands are made for sport bikes. Many use spools that are attached to either existing or added mounting points. My GoldWing uses spools attached via extended lower shock bolts. The stands are also available with pads that lift under the swingarms.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: pdxjim on January 18, 2021, 08:16:05 PM
(https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_7680.jpg)

I recently bought one of these from Harbor Freight for $35.

It's crap, but gets the job done, and can easily lift an RD or similar.

I wouldn't use it for anything heavier.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: m in sc on January 18, 2021, 09:06:31 PM
but with some chambers, these won't work to get wheel off.  I have regular stands as well but sometime ypu need to go another way.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: pdxjim on January 18, 2021, 11:51:58 PM
Quote from: m in sc on January 18, 2021, 09:06:31 PM
but with some chambers, these won't work to get wheel off.  I have regular stands as well but sometime ypu need to go another way.

Yup.

I have three paddock stands, and a stand for the dirtbike.

In this case one size does not fit all.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: Seizer on January 19, 2021, 10:24:26 AM
I use a Pitbull lift/stand. It's actually for the forks (bottom of fork legs below axle blocks) on another bike of mine but it's the same width as the swingarm. If I need to pull the wheel I usually set jackstands under the pegs.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: SoCal250 on January 19, 2021, 12:12:09 PM
I have this same dilemma and use a rod through the center stand frame lugs like Mark, or jack stands under the pegs like Chris. I have 3 different race stands but none will work without removing the pipes
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: m in sc on January 21, 2021, 08:01:56 AM
for stock pegs this is what i was describing.

Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: Seizer on January 22, 2021, 10:45:45 AM
Here's my setup. Once it's up, or if I need the stand for the Duc, I use jackstands under the pegs.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: teazer on January 22, 2021, 11:12:19 AM
To get the rear wheel out, use any rear paddock stand.  Easy peasy

For teh front wheel, you need a stand that uses a peg into the bottom of the steering stem.  Pitbull are probably stiffest and most secure but there are others out there.  I have a really old Lockhart Pillips stand that is a bear to lift, but makes work easy.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: m in sc on January 22, 2021, 11:57:28 AM
thats fine and all IF you dont have the dampener still in the lower tree on a stockish bike. I know you can remove it, i have a neck stand and a few track paddock rear stands. But sometimes they dont fit easily w/out removing pipes, dampeners, etc.  Im thinking this is more what this thread is about.

However, it IS nice having the right stuff as well. this monstrosity would have been much worse to do the neck bearings w out a neck stand . however, when i was driving the bearing races out, had to support by jack under the motor. Not the warmest fuzziest feeling i ever had.  :shocked:

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Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: Kawtriplefreak on January 22, 2021, 01:26:04 PM
I use a piece of rebar and two jack stands for either end or a couple of scissor jacks and a suitably sized small timber.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: RustyRD on January 22, 2021, 05:03:05 PM
Pit stands front and rear, they really make some jobs a lot easier. Not the cheapest route.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: Seizer on January 22, 2021, 08:23:59 PM
I really need a head-lift stand....
Rusty, does yours have interchangeable pins? What size pin does an RD use. My cousin (who is a machinist/programmer by trade. Makes tools for Tesla) milled me out a new upper triple and a head-lift would make it super easy to install.
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: m in sc on January 22, 2021, 08:57:00 PM
mine does. I've made a few diff sized pins in the lathe as well  :twocents:
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: RustyRD on January 22, 2021, 10:01:54 PM
Yes it does have different size pins I have 12, I bought it used from a shop near me, and do not remember the brand. I have an 2002 ninja complete front suspension and the size for it is 3/4", I measured an RD lower triple tree that came off the bike and it is 1/2". 
Title: Re: lifting the m.c w/out a center stand
Post by: Seizer on January 23, 2021, 04:12:38 AM
Quote from: RustyRD on January 22, 2021, 10:01:54 PM
Yes it does have different size pins I have 12, I bought it used from a shop near me, and do not remember the brand. I have an 2002 ninja complete front suspension and the size for it is 3/4", I measured an RD lower triple tree that came off the bike and it is 1/2".

Awesome. Thanks fellas.