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Title: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: pdxjim on May 01, 2021, 02:59:39 PM
I stripped out one of the aluminum axle pinch bolt threads on my KTM forks this morning.

Seems the only way to fix is a thread insert.

I don't have much experience with these other than paying someone else to do 'em when needed.

I'd like to tackle this one on my own this time.

Which is better/easier/more foolproof?
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: 85RZwade on May 01, 2021, 03:27:42 PM
I like time serts. Heli coils are easier to find, but I think time serts are a more solid, reliable repair. Not difficult at all.
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: pdxjim on May 01, 2021, 03:59:38 PM
Thx Wade.

On a side note, I've been battling my shitty Tecumseh lawnmower for two days trying to get it to run.

Carb off and ultrasconic'd, new fuel lines, etc.

Not my idea of a good time
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: Czakky on May 01, 2021, 04:33:33 PM
A new carb is really cheap on a lot of those tecumseh engines FWIW. I find most of my small engine issues are related to the auto choke.
Not that you asked, just sharing my experience.... :twocents:
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: soonerbillz on May 01, 2021, 04:45:28 PM
Quote from: Czakky on May 01, 2021, 04:33:33 PM
A new carb is really cheap on a lot of those tecumseh engines FWIW. I find most of my small engine issues are related to the auto choke.
Not that you asked, just sharing my experience.... :twocents:

Fact...
I hate the damn thing. Just ordered a China carb for my briggs 21 horse single.. tired of messing with the damn thing.  $15 sfree shipping.. if it works for 2-3 years it paid for itself.

Back on topic.. have had good luck with time sert
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: pidjones on May 01, 2021, 06:08:42 PM
If you need strength, Timesert. If strength is not an issue (carb float bowl, etc.) Helicoils are cheap and easy. You can get kits on Amazon for low $$. Axle pinch bolt, I'd go for Timesert.
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: rodneya on May 01, 2021, 07:00:42 PM
Timesert with a drop of locktite is pretty much permanent
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: 85RZwade on May 01, 2021, 10:13:28 PM
And if you need help with the lawnmower, I know a guy  :wave:
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: oxford on May 02, 2021, 11:56:34 AM
I have used this style insert with good results in the past. 

Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: Striker1423 on May 02, 2021, 01:21:20 PM
Real Timeserts are expensive. But absolutely worth it. You'll never have to touch it again save you cross threading it on accident.
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: 85RZwade on May 02, 2021, 02:33:32 PM
On that note, I had to buy a bag of 10 inserts for a recent repair, 8mm but I don't remember what pitch. I'd look, but I' In Portland at the One Moto show! If they're right for you I'll send a couple...what size do you need?
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: pdxjim on May 02, 2021, 03:33:20 PM
The ones I need are m8x1.25, but I'll be needing the rest of the kit as well

I ordered a helicoil kit off Amazon   If it looks too cheezy I'll go with timesheets

Have fun at the show. I'm sitting it out this year 👍
Title: Re: Helicoil vs time sert?
Post by: 85RZwade on May 02, 2021, 08:10:14 PM
Ya sat it out last year! Stay tuned to this Bat-station (yes, The Batman was there); pictures to come.