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Turning Wrenches / GT750 Failed Rebuild?
June 19, 2020, 11:30:55 PM
Hi all,

It's been a long while since i've visited the site but this time i'm here hoping for some expertise. I've just recently rebuilt the top end on a new-to-me GT750M and it's got a few problems after only 100-200 miles.

The first thing I noticed is that it had a surge on deceleration, which is typical for GT750's with the CV carbs. In an effort to get rid of this I went to sync the carbs and noticed that if I synced the carbs with vacuum gauges the left cylinder would quit firing. To get the #1 cylinder to contribute equally it required the sync screw to be almost all the way in (more throttle opening). While working on the engine I noticed a bit of piston rattle from the left side as well. Now that I'm thinking about it I don't know if the rattle was present when I first put it together, but I don't think it was. I parked it for a couple weeks and just today dug it back out and started looking at the problem. Suspecting that maybe I didn't do a good enough job checking the crank seals I started with the quick test by pulling the carbs off and cranking the engine with my hand over each inlet to feel how much each of them "sucked" my hand in. the #1 cylinder again seemed to be weaker. I removed the pipe and sealed the outlet before applying ~5 PSI of air to the intake side. I don't have the correct setup for a proper leakdown test but I did my best and wasn't able to find any air leakage past the seals. I even pulled the left cover and sprayed soapy water on the seal, the cylinder base gasket, and the case seam but never found any leaks. Since I found no leaks I figured i'd do a compression test and found that the left cylinder was 20 PSI lower than the right. So that's where I stopped for the night.

It's clear to me the engine is going to have to come back apart.My guess is one of three different things:
1. The ports did not have enough chamfer and broke one of the rings.
2. Some sort of blockage in the oil passages to that cylinder.
3. A leaking crank seal that I couldn't find.

So that's where i'm at now. Is there anything else I should be looking at before tearing it down? Or something I should specifically be looking for while doing so? My main concern is that I never found a crank seal leaking, so if I take it apart and don't find a piston/ring problem, then what? I'd hate to put it back together and have the same issue. I'd also like to avoid doing the crank seals if it doesn't need it. The outer seals that I am able to see look brand new. Whats your take on it?
#2
Turning Wrenches / Strange Misfire - Need Help
February 13, 2020, 09:00:28 PM
Hello all, I've been a long time reader of the forum but just made an account to seek some help with a strange problem that has recently come up on my GT750. I know this forum is primarily Yamaha's but it seems the registration is no longer functional with the Suzuki 2 stroke forum, I have met Chuck (supertune) in the past and am local to his area. I figure my question is general enough that I can at least get some ideas of what to look for from the wealth of knowledge here, so here goes:

I bought my 1975 GT750 as a project about 6 months ago now. It was very tired when I bought it but still seemed to run fairly well all things considered. I took some time to check out the bottom end i.e. checked crank seals, gearbox leaks, oil injection, etc and it all checked out okay. So I decided on just a top end rebuild. I went 1.5mm overbore and had both surfaces of the block and head decked. I just got it back up and running after the top end this past week and at first everything went well. The same day I got it started I heat cycled and re-torqued, did about 50 miles of break in riding with the oil injection set to a higher setting, and kept away from the last 2000 rpm of the powerband. The next day I take it out and decide to take it to redline once to see how it feels and it starts to misfire and pop out the exhaust in the upper RPM's. From there it only got worse. I tried to take it out for a ride with my friends RD350 and after about 10 miles the right cylinder stopped firing and eventually ended up backfiring through the carburetor, blowing my uni filter apart.

Since then I've installed new points and aftermarket coils and have had trouble getting it to run right. I can test each point/coil system independently and they all produce a nice blue spark. When I put it together and go for a test ride it runs great...for about 500 yards, then starts to misfire. Even at idle it will misfire and run poorly. If I clean the points and put in a fresh set of plugs it will run great again for another short period, then back to the same situation. Here's the strange part: it's always a different cylinder. Sometimes the left will misfire, i'll clean the plugs, and then it will move over to the right. Sometimes the misfire will follow specific spark plug, other times it wont. The only thing I can think of is that the wiring to the coils may carry enough current to support one coil when I'm testing, but not enough to run all 3 coils at the same time causing the misfire. I'm at a loss now and figured I would elicit some suggestions before I go tearing the harness apart.

Sorry for the long post, but any suggestions are appreciated