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Started by soonerbillz, April 27, 2021, 07:13:44 PM

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soonerbillz

Started cleaning parts...
Inside the upper case is this number
What's it mean?

SoCal250

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It's the Yamaha part number family "278"   (i.e., model code)

CRANKCASE ASSEMBLY 278-15100-02-00
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

soonerbillz

Quote from: SoCal250 on April 27, 2021, 07:24:19 PM
It's the Yamaha part number family "278"   (i.e., model code)

CRANKCASE ASSEMBLY 278-15100-02-00

Ok..cool. thanks
Do all YDS7 R5 and RD'S have the same  stamp there?

SoCal250

Yes, I believe all the 250/350 models in that era used the same case. The 400s would have "1A100"
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

soonerbillz


m in sc

ds7/r5 cases are different in at least one way: no groove for crank seal lip. also different transmission bearing retaining bracket (as in none? cant remember), i think (behind clutch). but otherwise interchangeable.

soonerbillz

Quote from: m in sc on April 28, 2021, 10:37:36 AM
ds7/r5 cases are different in at least one way: no groove for crank seal lip. also different transmission bearing retaining bracket (as in none? cant remember), i think (behind clutch). but otherwise interchangeable.

I remember reading that somewhere about the crank seal. Supposedly you have to trim the new seals to remove the lip.

SoCal250

Quote from: m in sc on April 28, 2021, 10:37:36 AM
ds7/r5 cases are different in at least one way: no groove for crank seal lip. also different transmission bearing retaining bracket (as in none? cant remember), i think (behind clutch). but otherwise interchangeable.

Good info. Thanks Mark

I thought there may be a difference, but Yamaha now lists the same part number for all models. The most recent part numbers show that it was first used on the R5 (red text below) but it's the 2nd revision (purple text below). I bet those revisions account for the differences you pointed out.

And I have a '73 parts manual that shows revision "01". I found the tech service bulletin where the change to 01 was announced for the RD250/350 but the specific change is not called out.

278-15100-02-00   CRANKCASE ASSY
278-15111-02-00   CASE, CRANK UPPER
278-15121-02-00   CASE, CRANK LOWER
75 Yamaha RD125B   75 Yamaha RD125B (project)
75 Yamaha RD250B   75 Yamaha RD200B (project)
73 Yamaha RD350     77 Yamaha RD400D   79 Yamaha RD400F  
91 Yamaha TZR250R  89 Yamaha FZR400   05 Yamaha FZ6   
05 Yamaha XT225TC  82 Honda MB5  02 Aprilia RS250 Cup (sold)

m in sc

yup.

fyi, rds show this on the fiche in the transmission, its that 3 hole bearing plate behind the clutch:

PLATE, COVER
360-17471-00-00

whereas the r5 fiche does not. so, that is def a confirmed difference as well.  this is also where the stepped clutch washer on the input shaft, etc come into play. but thats another thread.