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Title: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 06, 2020, 08:16:21 AM
I'm in the process of restoring a '76 RD400. Early on, I managed to destroy one of the carburetors. It was a stupid thing to do, but basically I thrashed the pilot jet threads beyond repair. I've been told that there's nothing that can be done for it. I'm embarrassed by the whole thing.

So I'm left with one working carburetor and need some options. It looks like a replacement from e-Bay isn't really one of them, from what I'm seeing. I'm not looking for additional power or anything like that. Just a running bike. I'd like to keep the oil pump and keep everything as simple as possible.

I see Economy sells a replacement set with oil ports, replacement cable, and jetting for $349.95 – $379.95. That's a little on the pricier side for my budget. What else can I do?

The details- Expansion chambers (unknown brand), currently no airbox (planning on using a 350 Y-boot), everything else is stock.

Any advice would be great.
Rob
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 06, 2020, 08:40:07 AM
what side? theres a left one on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-1977-1978-YAMAHA-RD400-RIGHT-CARBURETOR-ASSY-2-MIKUNI-1A1-00-OEM-4480/253102931571?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3aee1c3e73:g:~TgAAOSwjuBZlzvm&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkrDx%252B2NLp21dg6hHbHAkGMXT%252FqDeYm6Gjcb1LRgNEFw4j8OSxq%252FUKWAtILo1vFw4E27QTR8UefTp7zeQpwoFPaknTJ99fGy68JZHW0h8b2qVh4pYpNNLqJqo1zSh4Yvxy7el17JHnGZKE4U01qFT3RpRsUSCzkcn2vIbgM2p3NFESJEabsyVY7Ftf0YleVdlrkdQD7oKN18fz4k98f5IU3ERQxID%252FCSAHQaKtThFa1mt15uZdMpuvk8Ble4mm%252BkU%252BEkQevjO4vNufGNpEtGxiFvzepAEbix1%252BdvwZXyjxhyr0WNdlz2pjip5O4JTxW4NFOfLucoNCh8qUMHQk%252FYEnMbgaXHCKNUe0OZ%252FdPWEcSG9%252F8jRBslzKfPd%252FUaGqxps9J75fmsNf3OAQY%252B0YE7qKthuiMHhWsj50MWlVo2H9MuGC3nD2bZN9o6Hvi0XfUJwoozYq8YWeu0Bow33jFJ9ptVROhZwN2Y0qxu2BMsOsu%252BtL4C3QS9AaRK41%252B8Sr1JhjzVoB0vAPd0PB5hzYQ1cGtnuAvPNV4SIDZuO%252FFFYNep9QCzlOxOZ9kXYJ46goepqilKzvf%252FlML3H72refgW6dceXoXqnQB3dkMCkjJ9S35UxIxoLF2cJnGYFEwiEtdi4k2ifFHcFqtmALhTvWqPeznNMg41p%252B6U46K6sHSC2oeutH10Su5XVUppUFMn%252F7c%252B43w2i%252BpPlDyp6Z%252BcJLupfp9AEWrg%252FKvWhvT104WXKtO7hcIXwaBsSRKwis%252FJCXhNmK8Z7FTZ5tDRx9TDGeFZu1ig%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A25310293157183700b11d430444c8bc7da071b087312%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 06, 2020, 08:41:45 AM
I may have a decent left and right body, not sure, bit dont count on it. il look later.
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 06, 2020, 09:05:37 AM
I should have mentioned it's the right-side that I screwed up.

Quote from: m in sc on August 06, 2020, 08:41:45 AM
I may have a decent left and right body, not sure, bit dont count on it. il look later.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

Man, that carb on e-Bay is rough! Do you think that would clean up? I'd be a little nervous about it.
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 06, 2020, 09:09:16 AM
ive saved way worse
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: paul1478 on August 06, 2020, 09:18:10 AM
If Mark does not have them, i have a set from my 76 with the dave F mod. new brass from Chuck a few years ago. jeted for  Y-boot and DG pipes stock porting.
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 06, 2020, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: paul1478 on August 06, 2020, 09:18:10 AM
If Mark does not have them, i have a set from my 76 with the dave F mod. new brass from Chuck a few years ago. jeted for  Y-boot and DG pipes stock porting.

Thanks! I'll follow up with you soon

Quote from: m in sc on August 06, 2020, 09:09:16 AM
ive saved way worse

This might be my cheapest option. If you think it's salvageable. If you happen to have one you're willing to part with, please let me know. I'd rather go with a known good carb over one in "For parts or not working" condition.
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: RDFL on August 06, 2020, 01:21:05 PM
If Mark doesn't have one another member Halmic might.
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: Yamaha 179 on August 06, 2020, 05:39:46 PM
I believe I have one RD 400 right side carb still in the Yamaha box sitting on the shelf. If you are interested let me know and I'll get it out and look at it. 
Lyn Garland
vintspclty@aol.com
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 07, 2020, 09:21:19 AM
yup, have one. standalone RH 76-77-78 carb body, NO BRASS, airjet stock, has had brass ball removed for cleaning though.

carb is clean, comes with:

body
bowl
gasket (used, stuck on body, but good)
float
idle stop screw

thats it. nothing else, but its good. let me know, i'll bring to work and i can ship out. I assume you are in the us?

PM me, i'll take pics.

Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 07, 2020, 10:37:39 AM
was cleaned before stored like 10? years ago. the LH one i think went to friend with a CZ i think.  cant remember.

(http://www.2strokeworld.net/wp-content/uploads/misc-temp/rhrd400carb_1.jpg)

(http://www.2strokeworld.net/wp-content/uploads/misc-temp/rhrd400carb_3.jpg)

(http://www.2strokeworld.net/wp-content/uploads/misc-temp/rhrd400carb_2.jpg)

(http://www.2strokeworld.net/wp-content/uploads/misc-temp/rhrd400carb_4.jpg)

^ will need airbox to bowl fitting if going back 100% stock with the airbox lines

(http://www.2strokeworld.net/wp-content/uploads/misc-temp/rhrd400carb_5.jpg)

it take 50 shipped ups in USA. can go out today if i hear early back enough. If not, monday,.

-Mark
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 08, 2020, 09:49:26 PM
Quote from: m in sc on August 07, 2020, 10:37:39 AM
was cleaned before stored like 10? years ago. the LH one i think went to friend with a CZ i think.  cant remember.


it take 50 shipped ups in USA. can go out today if i hear early back enough. If not, monday,.

-Mark

Thanks Mark. I sent you a PM.

Thanks to everyone for advice and offers. Much appreciated. Hopefully one step closer to getting on the road.

Rob
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 09, 2020, 10:05:30 AM
didnt get  a pm.  :umm:

shoot me an email if you want: rooskie@comporium.net

Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 09, 2020, 03:30:19 PM
Quote from: m in sc on August 09, 2020, 10:05:30 AM
didnt get  a pm.  :umm:

shoot me an email if you want: rooskie@comporium.net

How strange. Email sent...
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 09, 2020, 09:23:46 PM
 :umm: nothing.

Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 09, 2020, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: m in sc on August 09, 2020, 09:23:46 PM
:umm: nothing.

Well... I'm at a loss, then. I'd like to take you up on your offer. I can send you the money via PayPal if that works for you.

Rob
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 10, 2020, 12:04:24 AM
i sent you an email directly, let me know if you get it.

I would encourage a different email, gmail accounts get snagged by most filters.  i remove 40-50 spam accounts a day that are gmail accounts. just fyi.

Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 10, 2020, 03:58:58 PM
shipped. should be there in a  few days. ups ground from SC (near Charlotte, NC.) i emailed the tracking.  :patriot:
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 11, 2020, 06:16:27 AM
Quote from: m in sc on August 10, 2020, 03:58:58 PM
shipped. should be there in a  few days. ups ground from SC (near Charlotte, NC.) i emailed the tracking.  :patriot:

Got it. Thanks Mark.

And thank you Lyn for all the excellent advice
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 12, 2020, 04:22:58 PM
Quote from: m in sc on August 10, 2020, 03:58:58 PM
shipped. should be there in a  few days. ups ground from SC (near Charlotte, NC.) i emailed the tracking.  :patriot:

I got the carb today. Thanks for getting it out so quickly.

I didn't realize from the pics how marred the ball tube was. It looks like it would be difficult to tap and fit a grub screw like I've seen others do. Any advice here?
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 12, 2020, 04:39:21 PM
leave it open. ? theres room to do it i think though. ive run a few sets open, never an issue
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 12, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
Interesting. I didn't realize that was an option. Should the ball on the other carb be removed to match?

Also, what's the best way to remove the main jet fitting from the old carb and fit in the new one?
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 12, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
yup, you can run them open. needs to be taken out to be cleaned anyway.

the jet tube? what -i- do is soak the carb, wd 40 or carb cleaner. take jet out, take washer out. thread just jet back in, no washer, *gently* tap the jet tube out towards the 'top' of the carb. if it wont move, soak more. better to use a jet you wont mind replacing.

Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 12, 2020, 05:45:51 PM
Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks.
(Hopefully) lastly, any advice on removing the washer? Just a good soak?
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: m in sc on August 13, 2020, 08:46:36 AM
washer under the main jet? just comes out. might need to pry a bit, but very little. 
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: Evans Ward on August 13, 2020, 09:31:15 AM
Just like Mark says above ^
I like to use a small flat head tip screw driver to pry gently. You won't hurt anything.
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: SoCal250 on August 13, 2020, 12:30:56 PM
Quote from: Evans Ward on August 13, 2020, 09:31:15 AM
Just like Mark says above ^
I like to use a small flat head tip screw driver to pry gently. You won't hurt anything.
+1

Quote from: ElFuegoBlanco on August 12, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
Also, what's the best way to remove the main jet fitting from the old carb and fit in the new one?
For stuck needle jets I use an old plastic chop stick and carefully tap it out after removing the main jet and washer. Works great and the plastic is soft enough that I've never had any issues with damage to the jet. For really dirty carbs I give all the pieces a once over with a toothbrush after disassembly then they go into the ultrasonic tank. Before I had the ultrasonic I used Berryman Chemdip
Title: Re: Looking for replacement carburetor advice (RD400)
Post by: ElFuegoBlanco on August 13, 2020, 01:02:42 PM
Thanks for all the help here. Hoping to get at it soon.