Gas

RDFL · January 22, 2021, 01:33:55 PM

Went up $1.50 since my last fill up 2 weeks ago, going way up soon.

pdxjim · January 22, 2021, 01:53:41 PM

Still lower than it's been on average since March 2016

m in sc · January 22, 2021, 02:03:57 PM

price of crude went up in Jan globally. not surprising considering the demand dropped last year and they were burning through projected reserves.

Striker1423 · January 22, 2021, 02:20:45 PM

The roof is on fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adgx9wt63NY

SoCal250 · January 22, 2021, 02:27:15 PM

Calif avg is $3.36 for reg (highest in the country) We'll have $5 gas here again before the end of the year

pdxjim · January 22, 2021, 02:37:57 PM

Quote from: Striker1423 on January 22, 2021, 02:20:45 PM
The roof is on fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adgx9wt63NY

sav0r (CL MotoTech) · January 22, 2021, 09:42:12 PM

I filled up with $2.90/g diesel the other day. Of course diesel never went under $2.50/g here, I know in Ohio I could get it for a buck cheaper.

As long as diesel is cheaper than premium I am happy.

pdxjim · January 23, 2021, 02:23:09 AM

Oregon isn't far behind CA at 6th most expensive by state.

Both of our cars get around 40mpg so I ain't sweatin' it too hard.

Washerman · January 23, 2021, 06:36:42 AM

Here's the real reason it's going up. The previous administration had America energy independent for the first time in my lifetime and was actively working on keeping it that way. The new group running the country is hostile to any type of fossil fuel exploration or production, on day one the permit for a pipeline was taken away so that has stopped so now any chance of low fuel prices for any type of fuel is history. Any type of energy production other than solar or wind or electricity is under fire so of course, the price is going to go up. Get ready to pay more for everything, sorry if this offends anyone but it's true. I will probably be banned again so see everyone in a couple of weeks.

m in sc · January 23, 2021, 07:31:53 AM

that's a theory i've heard floated quite a bit, and I get it. However, correlation is not causation. about 50% of what we sell at the company I work at goes to domestic fuel and oil production. A pipeline that hasn't been built yet (that may be delayed) will not cause prices to go up from where they were. I can tell you, we have been selling the same domestically to these industries over the past few mos as we were for the past 8.

Prices are also going up in Europe, which has -nothing- to do with the US production. It has to do with demand, or lack there of.

So we can agree to disagree.

As long as the conv is civil, its fine. we need fuel to run these machines.

read this:

https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/pdf/steo_text.pdf

pidjones · January 23, 2021, 07:38:39 AM

Over a decade ago I did a cost breakdown comparison between California, Tennessee (where I live), and German gasoline. Turns out we all pay about the same for the fuel itself. The difference is in taxes (#1), transport, and overhead. Here, we were paying $0.43/gallon in taxes to maintain highways (best in the nation at the time according to long-haul trucker magazines). Others were paying for roads and other things like the privilege to drive an internal combustion vehicle and subsidize other transport. The market is betting that this administration will be a boon to electric vehicles. Guess Elon can get to Mars faster.

m in sc · January 23, 2021, 08:08:08 AM

state taxes do make up a huge variable on consumer fuel costs. a point t which is often over looked. being on the border of NC and sc, I frequently gave friends that fill up here vs nc due to lower fuel costs in sc vs NC.

RustyRD · January 23, 2021, 08:47:21 AM

I covered 1300 miles this week driving from GA up to VA for work, gas prices in this area were 2.15 - 2.29 for regular.

sav0r (CL MotoTech) · January 23, 2021, 11:17:21 AM

The price of crude has gone up since May.

https://www.mining.com/markets/commodity/crude-oil/6-month/

Striker1423 · January 23, 2021, 11:56:26 AM

The overall plan of the large scale car production companies is to move the world as a whole away from fossil fuels and towards sustainable, renewable voodoo. I know this because I work in the automotive industry (what's left of it here in MI) and that has been the accelerated plan since the 2010's. The issue here in the US isn't the same issue as in Beijing, or Paris for that matter. This country has fuck-all for public transportation across it (amtrak? haha). Bullet trains are like finding unicorn's here. So, the result is people have to drive. Similar in a way to Australia. Most of the EU is less dependent on cars due to public transit being lightyears ahead.

On the flip side the Chinese have so many vehicles with no emissions regulations, they just chuck them off bridges into the water when they break. They couldn't care less.

So, unless and until the car manufacturing industry figures out a solution to make these sustainable cars cross-country capable and the entire country goes on a less-than-decrepitly-old power grid, the value of a vehicle that burns petrol is going to continue to sky-rocket, and more people will continue driving around old junk, with not much the government can do about it... yet.

For now, it's a good thing that plant life continues breaking down into the prehistoric goo we light on fire. Otherwise, this country grinds to a halt... literally.

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