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Title: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on June 22, 2025, 10:54:20 PM
I'm looking for a good pair of rear shocks(less than $950)for my 75' RD250B.
I want ones with straight-rate springs,which I can exchange for the correct springs,if needed;a set of rear shocks that're adjustable damping.
I called and spoke w/ Ikon(Roger)in Bedford,PA.and didn't appreciate his abrupt/'too busy' way of hurried speaking;I'll try someone else.
I have a little 81' Honda CB125S w/ the XL200R engine and it runs Hagons w/ their 'too stiff' springs;I installed a set of used/softer springs,and the Hagons are ok and work fine.
I want better than them.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: teazer on June 23, 2025, 03:03:45 AM
Does Chris Livengood still rework RFY shocks?  They are cheap to buy and surprisingly good for what they cost, but can be improved.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: m in sc on June 23, 2025, 07:12:25 AM
yss
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on June 23, 2025, 10:05:57 AM
Quote from: teazer on June 23, 2025, 03:03:45 AMDoes Chris Livengood still rework RFY shocks?  They are cheap to buy and surprisingly good for what they cost, but can be improved.

I see.
I heard he just lost his Mother,so I'll wait for a while.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: Striker1423 on June 23, 2025, 12:41:16 PM
I bought Hagon's for my RD and my GT. I love them. Got them from Wemoto and it was cheaper that way.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: m in sc on June 23, 2025, 12:58:55 PM
https://purposebuiltmoto.com/products/yss-bravo-twin-shocks?variant=53381856985379&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21684105759&gclid=CjwKCAjw9uPCBhATEiwABHN9K-1l9KpGa-ZRlo7Wl1xB9yjVtoBpjEeeyFoClRfPhJVIFz4LZhW7KhoCGyoQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on June 23, 2025, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: m in sc on June 23, 2025, 12:58:55 PMhttps://purposebuiltmoto.com/products/yss-bravo-twin-shocks?variant=53381856985379&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21684105759&gclid=CjwKCAjw9uPCBhATEiwABHN9K-1l9KpGa-ZRlo7Wl1xB9yjVtoBpjEeeyFoClRfPhJVIFz4LZhW7KhoCGyoQAvD_BwE

Do they have a USA office,so I can speak english live with them ?
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: m in sc on June 23, 2025, 06:25:26 PM
bets me. Just fire off an email see what they say.  I have them on 3 bikes, very happy with them. the t500, the grom and the kz. Just off the shelf units . I'm sure there's a comitted us distributor I just don't know who
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: SoCal250 on June 23, 2025, 09:02:07 PM
You might reach out to these guys https://epmperformance.com/collections/yss
https://epmperformance.com/pages/contact-us
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on June 24, 2025, 02:09:29 AM
Quote from: SoCal250 on June 23, 2025, 09:02:07 PMYou might reach out to these guys https://epmperformance.com/collections/yss
https://epmperformance.com/pages/contact-us
:cool:
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 05, 2025, 05:45:31 PM
Quote from: m in sc on June 23, 2025, 06:25:26 PMbets me. Just fire off an email see what they say.  I have them on 3 bikes, very happy with them. the t500, the grom and the kz. Just off the shelf units . I'm sure there's a comitted us distributor I just don't know who

Mark, do they have good damping characteristics on a lightweight bike for varied speed and terrain ?
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: m in sc on July 05, 2025, 09:22:41 PM
i mean, i have no complaints. the grom is pretty lightweight
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 06, 2025, 12:40:48 AM
Quote from: m in sc on July 05, 2025, 09:22:41 PMi mean, i have no complaints. the grom is pretty lightweight

Automatic/variable damping built-in ?
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: m in sc on July 06, 2025, 12:15:18 PM
just a reservoir shock. actually had it out on a  70+ mile ride his morning, all good
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 06, 2025, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: m in sc on July 06, 2025, 12:15:18 PMjust a reservoir shock. actually had it out on a  70+ mile ride his morning, all good

I think these will be good for my RD.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: sav0r (CL MotoTech) on July 07, 2025, 10:20:15 AM
I still do RFY's occasionally, and I have way too many parts for the RFY's as well as a few sets just on my shelf.

However, after the pandemic the supply chain never recovered. The guy I made arrangements with to buy from stopped selling them. Shortly there after I go frustrated and started turning the work way. At some point I am going to list all those parts for sale for cents on the dollar and somebody will be able to build some good shocks if they know what they are doing.

I have designed and even made many of the parts for my own dual shock setup for vintage bikes. RD is where I'd start. I need to get my CNC lathe going, which would allow me to make the many round parts needed for a damper. This is really my vision of where I want to go with that stuff. A 100% USA made set of dampers, hopefully at a reasonable price but have some customizable options not available through like YSS.

We finished moving my mothers stuff and the estate is mostly settled at this point. So I am back to work in a reasonable capacity. I am lot less strained with travel and those types of things now.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 07, 2025, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: sav0r on July 07, 2025, 10:20:15 AMI still do RFY's occasionally, and I have way too many parts for the RFY's as well as a few sets just on my shelf.

However, after the pandemic the supply chain never recovered. The guy I made arrangements with to buy from stopped selling them. Shortly there after I go frustrated and started turning the work way. At some point I am going to list all those parts for sale for cents on the dollar and somebody will be able to build some good shocks if they know what they are doing.

I have designed and even made many of the parts for my own dual shock setup for vintage bikes. RD is where I'd start. I need to get my CNC lathe going, which would allow me to make the many round parts needed for a damper. This is really my vision of where I want to go with that stuff. A 100% USA made set of dampers, hopefully at a reasonable price but have some customizable options not available through like YSS.

We finished moving my mothers stuff and the estate is mostly settled at this point. So I am back to work in a reasonable capacity. I am lot less strained with travel and those types of things now.


Chris,do you have a set of RFY's to sell,which will work good on my RD250 ?
I've always liked the look of them.
I read that they have Lot's of(too much?)compression damping stock..
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: sav0r (CL MotoTech) on July 13, 2025, 12:45:27 PM
I don't think I do. We would need softer springs for that bike. I will look when I am in the shop in a bit.

Too much compression damping is not an issue they have. Too stiff a springs certainly is.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 13, 2025, 02:22:47 PM
Quote from: sav0r on July 13, 2025, 12:45:27 PMI don't think I do. We would need softer springs for that bike. I will look when I am in the shop in a bit.

Too much compression damping is not an issue they have. Too stiff a springs certainly is.

I understand.
I'm 200lbs,and I normally like using straight-rate(soft is better)shock springs,when I can get them;I'm able to gradually add preload w/o hitting the 'hard spot' usually experienced with dual-rate springs.

Chris, Can I purchase a certain pair of these RFY's and send them to you to be worked-on ?
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: sav0r (CL MotoTech) on July 13, 2025, 09:44:01 PM
Send me a PM with what you're looking for.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 13, 2025, 10:15:39 PM
Quote from: sav0r on July 13, 2025, 09:44:01 PMSend me a PM with what you're looking for.

The YSS that Mark posted look very good,and I like their style.

I measured the shock towers/posts on my RD250 and they're 14mm O.D.
The chrome Repro shocks the seller installed are 325mm/12.75" eye-eye.

I would like to get a pair of them with a light enough set of springs to make it comfortable on the lowest preload setting.

I'll send you a PM.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: irk_miller on July 15, 2025, 08:20:36 AM
I run the RE302 YSS on my RD.  It's a non-rebuildable shock, but a bit cheaper than the rebuildable stuff YSS makes that fit.  I like the shocks a lot. 
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 16, 2025, 10:12:24 PM
Chris found some Worx Performance shocks which came off a 74' Ducati 750 which had a dry weight of 401lbs.,although I'm not sure if the springs are light enough,plus they haven't been rebuilt.
Might be ok.
Title: Re: I have Hagons on my small Honda.. what's a good pair of rear shocks ??
Post by: grcamna3 on July 17, 2025, 10:41:50 AM
I purchased these used Works Performance 'Tracker' rear shocks.

I don't think there are any kits available,but I'll keep my eyes open for parts.
I'm sure these are much better than RFY's.